The Title Race - 2023/24

[ElMago_DSilva]

There are only two teams we need to watch out for... Arsenal and Liverpool.

The other sides are absolutely miles away from us.

 

[bridgeno1]

Liverpool worry me because of how good they were and how well Klopp got them going.

The team we beat by a point the first time, that won the CL is one of the great PL teams, tragic they only have 1 to show for it :-)

We are the best PL team and have a level of consistency and performance that none can match.

Arsenal, I don’t feel are close to the standard of that Liverpool team. I always felt in every game they played they could drop points. Whereas Liverpool it felt we had to win as they will win.

So for this reason I look for Liverpool results first, we’ll see what Arsenal do as they have a good team/ squad.

I think they need a proper striker TBH

Correct, we (Arsenal) aren't as good as the Liverpool side that pushed City hard in the centurion season. But I do think Arsenal's side last year were better than a few of the United and Chelsea sides that won the PL, definitely better than Leicester and also better than the 1st 2 City sides that won the league.

Just shows how far the standard has increased since then. Really the 2 sides that stand above all others are the City Centurion side and the Arsenal invincibles. Would have been great to see those 2 come up against each other.

 

[Deleted member 81382]

Liverpool worry me because of how good they were and how well Klopp got them going.

The team we beat by a point the first time, that won the CL is one of the great PL teams, tragic they only have 1 to show for it :-)

It always amuses me how they got 92, 97 and 99 points but only have 1 Premier League title.

To put it into perspective, the highest points total Ferguson ever got was 92.

 

[eastmanc]

Correct, we (Arsenal) aren't as good as the Liverpool side that pushed City hard in the centurion season. But I do think Arsenal's side last year were better than a few of the United and Chelsea sides that won the PL, definitely better than Leicester and also better than the 1st 2 City sides that won the league.

Just shows how far the standard has increased since then. Really the 2 sides that stand above all others are the City Centurion side and the Arsenal invincibles. Would have been great to see those 2 come up against each other.

Don't agree that Arsenal were better than our 2011/12 team. Individually they were nowhere near as good as that side.

 

[BAB.DAB]

Correct, we (Arsenal) aren't as good as the Liverpool side that pushed City hard in the centurion season. But I do think Arsenal's side last year were better than a few of the United and Chelsea sides that won the PL, definitely better than Leicester and also better than the 1st 2 City sides that won the league.

Just shows how far the standard has increased since then. Really the 2 sides that stand above all others are the City Centurion side and the Arsenal invincibles. Would have been great to see those 2 come up against each other.

The 2011/12 City team clawed back 8 points in 5 games against the then current champions, but last season the arsenal team bottled a 8 points lead.
So which is better?

 

[bridgeno1]

The 2011/12 City team clawed back 8 points in 5 games against the then current champions, but last season the arsenal team bottled a 8 points lead.
So which is better?

They didn't bottle it in so far as City won 11 games on the bounce. City won that title just as much as Arsenal bottled it as if youd not gone on that run what Arsenal did was irrelevant.

That City team last season was far superior to the United side that City clawed back 8 points on. You can't compare.

 

[bridgeno1]

Don't agree that Arsenal were better than our 2011/12 team. Individually they were nowhere near as good as that side.

If you look at that 2012 City team Kompany, Silva and Aguero walk into last season's Arsenal side. Yaya Toure is marginal, the rest of that City team get nowhere near last year's Arsenal 1st XI.

Whereas if you compare Arsenal and City last season, Saka walks into the City team, there are several players that you could argue are on par on either side (particularly at the back, maybe Saliba is a smidge above what City had at CB last season but still marginal) but apart from the aforementioned Saka I don't think another Arsenal player is a shoo in for the City team of last season and some of the City side (eg Haaland, Edersen, Bernardo Silva, Rhodri, KDB) are absolutely clear above their Arsenal counterparts (Silva I put in even though he plays in Saka's position and I said Saka walks into a combined Arsenal/City team I just think Silva is so good (controversial opinion but I actually think he may be your best player) that a spot has to be found for him somewhere.

Actually if you offered me 1 current City player we could take to Arsenal it wouldn't be the 'obvious' choice Haaland - I'd take Silva ahead of him.

 

[Gothos]

Sorry, but the 2011/2012 City side would wipe the floor with last seasons Arsenal. Even the title winning sides of Chelsea I’m struggling to see being inferior to Arsenal. Id take prime Hazard over Saka / Martineli any day.

 

[roach3]

way to early for me to start talking this seasons title but based on what ive seen so far which isnt a great indicator
i see us arsenal and the dippers in no particular order with us looking the strongest.
if i had to choose now i would pick us to win.
saka would fit seemlessly into our first 11 but i wouldnt have him over bernie.

 

[MadchesterCity]

Liverpool worry me because of how good they were and how well Klopp got them going.

The team we beat by a point the first time, that won the CL is one of the great PL teams, tragic they only have 1 to show for it :-)

We are the best PL team and have a level of consistency and performance that none can match.

Arsenal, I don’t feel are close to the standard of that Liverpool team. I always felt in every game they played they could drop points. Whereas Liverpool it felt we had to win as they will win.

So for this reason I look for Liverpool results first, we’ll see what Arsenal do as they have a good team/ squad.

I think they need a proper striker TBH

Tragic my arse, they still have an asterisk on that title, they only won it because of covid and VAR

 

[cheekybids]

If you look at that 2012 City team Kompany, Silva and Aguero walk into last season's Arsenal side. Yaya Toure is marginal, the rest of that City team get nowhere near last year's Arsenal 1st XI.

Whereas if you compare Arsenal and City last season, Saka walks into the City team, there are several players that you could argue are on par on either side (particularly at the back, maybe Saliba is a smidge above what City had at CB last season but still marginal) but apart from the aforementioned Saka I don't think another Arsenal player is a shoo in for the City team of last season and some of the City side (eg Haaland, Edersen, Bernardo Silva, Rhodri, KDB) are absolutely clear above their Arsenal counterparts (Silva I put in even though he plays in Saka's position and I said Saka walks into a combined Arsenal/City team I just think Silva is so good (controversial opinion but I actually think he may be your best player) that a spot has to be found for him somewhere.

Actually if you offered me 1 current City player we could take to Arsenal it wouldn't be the 'obvious' choice Haaland - I'd take Silva ahead of him.

Stopped reading at Yaya was marginal, he was phenomenal & Mancini ranted at the team you are nothing without Yaya.

 

[Bluewonder]

Sorry, but the 2011/2012 City side would wipe the floor with last seasons Arsenal. Even the title winning sides of Chelsea I’m struggling to see being inferior to Arsenal. Id take prime Hazard over Saka / Martineli any day.

Big time. The 2011-12 City team had balls. Arsenal, do not.

 

[Worsleyweb]

If you look at that 2012 City team Kompany, Silva and Aguero walk into last season's Arsenal side. Yaya Toure is marginal, the rest of that City team get nowhere near last year's Arsenal 1st XI.

Whereas if you compare Arsenal and City last season, Saka walks into the City team, there are several players that you could argue are on par on either side (particularly at the back, maybe Saliba is a smidge above what City had at CB last season but still marginal) but apart from the aforementioned Saka I don't think another Arsenal player is a shoo in for the City team of last season and some of the City side (eg Haaland, Edersen, Bernardo Silva, Rhodri, KDB) are absolutely clear above their Arsenal counterparts (Silva I put in even though he plays in Saka's position and I said Saka walks into a combined Arsenal/City team I just think Silva is so good (controversial opinion but I actually think he may be your best player) that a spot has to be found for him somewhere.

Actually if you offered me 1 current City player we could take to Arsenal it wouldn't be the 'obvious' choice Haaland - I'd take Silva ahead of him.

Yaya marginal. Oh how I laughed!

 

[MadchesterCity]

Stopped reading at Yaya was marginal, he was phenomenal & Mancini ranted at the team you are nothing without Yaya.

Agreed, the same YaYa that is the greatest African player to play in the Premier League. At his peak he was simply unplayable and 2013/14 season I’d say he was the best player on the planet. He is ridiculously underrated even by City fans due to the off-field issues but we should always remember he was simply the best.

 

[mancboy]

If you look at that 2012 City team Kompany, Silva and Aguero walk into last season's Arsenal side. Yaya Toure is marginal, the rest of that City team get nowhere near last year's Arsenal 1st XI.

Whereas if you compare Arsenal and City last season, Saka walks into the City team, there are several players that you could argue are on par on either side (particularly at the back, maybe Saliba is a smidge above what City had at CB last season but still marginal) but apart from the aforementioned Saka I don't think another Arsenal player is a shoo in for the City team of last season and some of the City side (eg Haaland, Edersen, Bernardo Silva, Rhodri, KDB) are absolutely clear above their Arsenal counterparts (Silva I put in even though he plays in Saka's position and I said Saka walks into a combined Arsenal/City team I just think Silva is so good (controversial opinion but I actually think he may be your best player) that a spot has to be found for him somewhere.

Actually if you offered me 1 current City player we could take to Arsenal it wouldn't be the 'obvious' choice Haaland - I'd take Silva ahead of him.

you lost that argument by saying yaya toure is marginal, yaya is streets ahead of any midfielder that arsenal has currently, pablo zabelata isnt ahead of ben white? dont make me laugh, gareth barry and ndj both walk into your midfield and dzeko is a miles better striker than anything you currently have so try again

 

[MadchesterCity]

If you look at that 2012 City team Kompany, Silva and Aguero walk into last season's Arsenal side. Yaya Toure is marginal, the rest of that City team get nowhere near last year's Arsenal 1st XI.

Whereas if you compare Arsenal and City last season, Saka walks into the City team, there are several players that you could argue are on par on either side (particularly at the back, maybe Saliba is a smidge above what City had at CB last season but still marginal) but apart from the aforementioned Saka I don't think another Arsenal player is a shoo in for the City team of last season and some of the City side (eg Haaland, Edersen, Bernardo Silva, Rhodri, KDB) are absolutely clear above their Arsenal counterparts (Silva I put in even though he plays in Saka's position and I said Saka walks into a combined Arsenal/City team I just think Silva is so good (controversial opinion but I actually think he may be your best player) that a spot has to be found for him somewhere.

Actually if you offered me 1 current City player we could take to Arsenal it wouldn't be the 'obvious' choice Haaland - I'd take Silva ahead of him.

I’m sure you are a wum

 

[mancboy]

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I’m sure you are a wum

hes not a wum , hes just your common or garden arsenal moron who overstates his own players importance while saying everybody else is crap, but then is entirely confused when arsenal dont win, there is not a current arsenal player that walks into the city team not a single one.

I mean to even mention saliba and dias in the same sentence is quite frankly an insult.

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

I mean, this Arsenal team has won a Community Shield, we should really be taking them a bit more serious

 

[WickyWain]

Yaya marginal. Oh how I laughed!

And Zaba gets nowhere near Ben White apparently!

 

[mancboy]

And Zaba gets nowhere near Ben White apparently!

thats the one that pissed me off more than yaya and the disrespect to ndj , barry and dzeko, ndj is twice the midfielder that partey is.