The Title Race - 2024/25

How many points to win the league?

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Based off the past 2 weeks I'd predict City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Brighton to be the top 4.

It'll be down to goal difference but we'll come out top due to Haaland scoring a hatrick every home game.

United will finish 11th on zero goal difference but will get Goal of the Season, Manager of the Season, Player of the Season, Young Player of the Season.....
 
I predicted us (Arsenal) to win the league before the season started. Now it's started I think we'll get 2nd, City 1st based on what I've seen so far.
 
Blue_Lightsaber said:
You may be right but the reason Arsenal are so good is Jorginho. He keeps things ticking in midfield for them and he's scary good on pens. It's kinda like Rodri is for us.

Like the saying goes.. goals win games but defense wins titles and a good DM is key.

If he has a good season.. they could be better than last year.
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It's the thinnest of the margins and at the end of the day they only didn't win the league last year because they drew at our place.

They're going to be a tough cookie and drag out results similar to how Klopp was doing at Liverpool a few years ago.

Nobody will give us credit on this though. Arsenal will fight us all the way in the league but they won't be fighting in 4 competitions at the same time.
 
If we are better against the top 6 teams than last season (too many draws), it will be tough for anyone to catch us so the 3 points at Chelsea was a good start.
 
bridgeno1 said:
I predicted us (Arsenal) to win the league before the season started. Now it's started I think we'll get 2nd, City 1st based on what I've seen so far.
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Far too early to base anything of what's been seen so far.

Arsenal will push us all the way, and if you keep everyone fit, there's no reason why you can't win it.

The only difference I'd say so far, is that I think we've got a better squad than we had last season, and certain players are coming into their 2nd and 3rd seasons and will likely have improved.

I still think Arsenal have a starting 11 which can compete, but I'm just not convinced by the squad players, and how they'll get on if they're needed for any lengthy period of time through injuries.

Either way, Liverpool 3rd and I'm going to go for Chelsea to improve and finish 4th.

Spurs, United, Villa, Newcastle and Brighton to make up 5th-9th in whatever order.
 
Blue_Lightsaber said:
You may be right but the reason Arsenal are so good is Jorginho. He keeps things ticking in midfield for them and he's scary good on pens. It's kinda like Rodri is for us.

Like the saying goes.. goals win games but defense wins titles and a good DM is key.

If he has a good season.. they could be better than last year.
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Jorginho hardly ever plays. He's not even 3rd choice currently.
 
Far too early to tell but City and Arsenal may be the only challengers come February.

My early and very controversial take is that Chelsea will finish above Liverpool:

City 92 pts
Arsenal 88 pts
Chelsea 79 pts
Liverpool or United 78 pts

Slot is probably a very good manager but he will need more time to get the league. Plus, Liverpool are too dependent on VVD and Salah who are 33 y.o. IF Slot is an instant hit, then Liverpool may finish close to the top. I don't think it's likely, though.
 
It all depends on whether City get ducked points by the American model favoured by the Premier League. Personally I will give up if we get punished by relegation or a massive points deduction, particularly because the Scum got away with murder
 
bridgeno1 said:
So this is what Opta has as final positions and points scored this season. City have an 81% chance of the title, Arsenal 13%. Hmmm. Arsenal to get 80 points only? Not sure but let's see.

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We've had historically high Premier League winners/runners up in recent years, but 81 is still not that unusual for the second placed team. City have been a total outlier in terms of consistency.

Arsenal didn't manage 80+ for fifteen seasons, and it's far from a guarantee that they'd go up again after last year. There was a reason why 3 titles in a row was such an achievement, and they're equally likely to drop off a little, as they are to do the "one last push" and go that big higher.
 
bluenova said:
We've had historically high Premier League winners/runners up in recent years, but 81 is still not that unusual for the second placed team. City have been a total outlier in terms of consistency.

Arsenal didn't manage 80+ for fifteen seasons, and it's far from a guarantee that they'd go up again after last year. There was a reason why 3 titles in a row was such an achievement, and they're equally likely to drop off a little, as they are to do the "one last push" and go that big higher.
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Yeah makes sense. I think Arsenal's current fixtures are vital - Villa away (won), Brighton home and then Spurs and City away. If they lost both the Spurs and City games it could well set Arsenal on a very negative trajectory, as could injuries to Saliba/Saka etc. Win the Spurs game and draw or win at the Etihad and the opposite could happen I guess, as could a big transfer between now and Friday.
 
One point that I haven't seen mentioned yet is that I think it's very, very difficult to go through to the end of the campaign in a tight title race where there's no margin for error and also win the Champions League. In 2018/19, where we won 14 in a row at the end of the PL season to hold off Liverpool, we got knocked out of the CL in the quarter-finals. Ditto last season, where closed out the PL with nine straight wins to finish ahead of Arsenal.

If we'd had a couple of extra CL semi-final matches to fit in during the closing weeks of the campaign, there's every chance in my view we could have slipped up somewhere and gifted our rivals the league title. That said, I reckon both times we'd have had a pretty decent shot at winning the CL instead, with wretched fortune having contributed to each of the CL exits.

In 2022/23, on the way to the treble, we got lucky with a couple of things in the April. The first is that we drew Sheffield United in the FA Cup semi, which fell between the two legs of the CL quarter-final tie against Bayern. I don't think we could have rotated so heavily against far stronger opposition in the form of either Brighton or the rags yet still won the other semi-final. And Arsenal obligingly blew up in the title race, handing us the prize when we still had three PL matches to play.

Anyway, after seeing the 35-year trophy drought from start to finish between 1976 and 2011, I just count myself lucky that we seem set to continue challenging on all fronts in the near future. We may win some and lose others, but that's life. The main thing is that it's just a fantastic time to be a blue.
 
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