The Tottenham Thread 12/13

THFC6061 said:
MSP said:
Just as Arry had very secure job after bringing you from relegation spots to 4th place twice.

Harry did have a secure job - until he talked himself out of it.

Man wanted national team job what's pretty normal and lost it only because your greedy chairman asked Bale alike money to let him go. Then sacked him when he lost the chance to get the job any sane man would like.

Not big fan of 'Arry (is there anyone who is) but will take him anytime before Levy.
 
MSP said:
THFC6061 said:
MSP said:
Just as Arry had very secure job after bringing you from relegation spots to 4th place twice.

Harry did have a secure job - until he talked himself out of it.

Man wanted national team job what's pretty normal and lost it only because your greedy chairman asked Bale alike money to let him go. Then sacked him when he lost the chance to get the job any sane man would like.

Not big fan of 'Arry (is there anyone who is) but will take him anytime before Levy.
This is not accurate. He openly courted the national job (Okay fine.) and tried to leverage that into a lucrative contract extension, and he apparently tried to leverage the possibility of a contract extension into higher pay if he took the national job plus he blatantly used his pals in the media to try to force Levy to let him go for either next to nothing to the England position or give him mega-money to stay. Then the bottom fell out on their season giving both sides the opportunity to tell him to go away.
 
taconinja said:
MSP said:
THFC6061 said:
Harry did have a secure job - until he talked himself out of it.

Man wanted national team job what's pretty normal and lost it only because your greedy chairman asked Bale alike money to let him go. Then sacked him when he lost the chance to get the job any sane man would like.

Not big fan of 'Arry (is there anyone who is) but will take him anytime before Levy.
This is not accurate. He openly courted the national job (Okay fine.) and tried to leverage that into a lucrative contract extension, and he apparently tried to leverage the possibility of a contract extension into higher pay if he took the national job plus he blatantly used his pals in the media to try to force Levy to let him go for either next to nothing to the England position or give him mega-money to stay. Then the bottom fell out on their season giving both sides the opportunity to tell him to go away.

Well, yes, that's technically true but he couldn't do anything else when levy had put 10m fee to him having any chance to get England job. That's approx. what Madrid paid to Inter to get Mourinho ffs.

He certainly tried to force his exit to England and that's perfectly normal.

However, I don't think it was fair from levy to ask that money to let him go and it was effectively robbing him for chance to get that job - both one you want emotionally and because it's great job to have.

Harry is not flower, he is **** too but I think he made great job at Spurs and deserved to be given a chance to crown his career and manage his national team. Levy basically took it from him and on the end kicked him in the arse.

Arry is twat but Levy is twat of the highest order.
 
Going to defend Spurs a little bit here. *spits*

JoeMercer'sWay said:
THFC6061 said:
bapi said:
Sandro is a better DM than Garcia and Dembele is a better CM than Barry.

However we can say a lot clubs are 'one-man team' - Barca without Messi would struggle too. He can score 80 goals per season and can create space for guys like Alba, Adriano or Alves. The most complete football club is Bayern, to be honest.

Very true.

Theo Walcott has chalked-up a higher proportion of Arsenal's Premier League goals & assists this season than Gareth Bale has done for Spurs, yet you don't hear anyone saying that Arsenal are a one-man team, do you?

and what percentage of each were match-winning contributions?

That is hardly a stick to beat Bale with! You're criticising him for turning it on in the big games. Is that not what we have been missing in matches this season? Against United, Arsenal (H), Chelsea (A) and Liverpool (both) we needed a player like Bale to do something magic. The fact that Bale is doing this 'magic' every game is phenomenal.


Gabriel said:
THFC6061 said:
Now here's a funny thing:

After 27 matches of the 2011-12 season Chelsea got rid of André Villas-Boas.

After 27 matches of the 2012-13 season, André Villas-Boas' Tottenham Hotspur overtook Chelsea into third place in the Premier League Table.

Isn't Karma a woman sometimes?

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So, was their subsequent winning of the Champion's League karma, too, or simply Western luck? :-)

Did you watch Chelsea's Champions League campaign? It was massive amounts of luck!
 
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AVB is in a different league to Harry. I have always said Spurs have a great manager on their hands now, a great improvement on that chancer Redknapp.

He probably is, very young too and has loads of time to get better than he is.

Though I completely agree with Daily Mai's Durham's article that "Total bale" tactics he is using at Spurs are hardly Rinus Michel's "total football" ones.
 
Dzeko's Right Boot said:
Going to defend Spurs a little bit here. *spits*

JoeMercer'sWay said:
THFC6061 said:
Very true.

Theo Walcott has chalked-up a higher proportion of Arsenal's Premier League goals & assists this season than Gareth Bale has done for Spurs, yet you don't hear anyone saying that Arsenal are a one-man team, do you?

and what percentage of each were match-winning contributions?

That is hardly a stick to beat Bale with! You're criticising him for turning it on in the big games. Is that not what we have been missing in matches this season? Against United, Arsenal (H), Chelsea (A) and Liverpool (both) we needed a player like Bale to do something magic. The fact that Bale is doing this 'magic' every game is phenomenal.


Gabriel said:
THFC6061 said:
Now here's a funny thing:

After 27 matches of the 2011-12 season Chelsea got rid of André Villas-Boas.

After 27 matches of the 2012-13 season, André Villas-Boas' Tottenham Hotspur overtook Chelsea into third place in the Premier League Table.

Isn't Karma a woman sometimes?

A1848_zps7e0bfdad.jpg

So, was their subsequent winning of the Champion's League karma, too, or simply Western luck? :-)

Did you watch Chelsea's Champions League campaign? It was massive amounts of luck!

wrong end of the stick there mate, I was questioning that although Walcott has contributed a higher percentage of Arsenal's goals and assists than Bale has to Spurs whether the breakdown of those shows that Walcott has made a bigger result-changing contribution than Bale has. I'd suspect not seeing as I've noticed several of Walcott's goals have been in games Arsenal have already won. I think Bale has single-handedly won Spurs 10 points in the last 4 games.
 
Dzeko's Right Boot said:
Going to defend Spurs a little bit here. *spits*

JoeMercer'sWay said:
THFC6061 said:
Very true.

Theo Walcott has chalked-up a higher proportion of Arsenal's Premier League goals & assists this season than Gareth Bale has done for Spurs, yet you don't hear anyone saying that Arsenal are a one-man team, do you?

and what percentage of each were match-winning contributions?

That is hardly a stick to beat Bale with! You're criticising him for turning it on in the big games. Is that not what we have been missing in matches this season? Against United, Arsenal (H), Chelsea (A) and Liverpool (both) we needed a player like Bale to do something magic. The fact that Bale is doing this 'magic' every game is phenomenal.


Gabriel said:
THFC6061 said:
Now here's a funny thing:

After 27 matches of the 2011-12 season Chelsea got rid of André Villas-Boas.

After 27 matches of the 2012-13 season, André Villas-Boas' Tottenham Hotspur overtook Chelsea into third place in the Premier League Table.

Isn't Karma a woman sometimes?

A1848_zps7e0bfdad.jpg

So, was their subsequent winning of the Champion's League karma, too, or simply Western luck? :-)

Did you watch Chelsea's Champions League campaign? It was massive amounts of luck!

A campaign, as we can proudly testify, is not won on luck. Chelsea enjoyed good fortune in certain games and played with pluck rather than panache, but their name being on the trophy is all that matters. Must now wash my mouth out with soapy water. :-)
 

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