josh_spurs
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stonerblue said:
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I think that at times the media have over blown your trumpet, but that's hardly Spurs fault, or the fans fault. Of the established Premiership clubs I can think of just 3 clubs which have made a leap forward: City, Spurs and Newcastle.FrostyNRG said:
I don't really see how you can consider that snide. That was absolutely the belief of Chelsea management. I'm sure I could pull up some quotes from Chelsea execs that basically said exactly that - that success on the field would lead to a bigger fan base and increased revenues.
And in terms of CFC being a play thing for RA; that might be a slightly unfortunate use of words but even the most ardent Chelsea fan (certainly among the ones I know) would not suggest that RA has been heavily involved in the commercial aspects of the business and has prepared anything resembling a sustainable for the future. Its in no way a dig at the club of the fans, merely highlighting the different approaches.
And in terms of CFC being a play thing for RA; that might be a slightly unfortunate use of words but even the most ardent Chelsea fan (certainly among the ones I know) would not suggest that RA has been heavily involved in the commercial aspects of the business and has prepared anything resembling a sustainable for the future. Its in no way a dig at the club of the fans, merely highlighting the different approaches.
@Marvin - I hear that a lot, that Spurs are the darlings of the press. That might be true more recently, but it certainly wasn't the case for many a year. The sight of the cracked Spurs crest in the back pages of the red tops was all too common a sight! Frankly, the media's perception and reporting of my club (both now and in the past) doesn't really register with me. That said, I do remember being constantly annoyed with the press when they were constantly praising a certain Frenchman's approach to football and how his team played the game the right way.
Its always amusing to me when other fans, and particularly the media, talk about Abramovich's motives, considering nobody even knows what his voice sounds like because he's never given an interview in his life. I love him personally, because he loves the club. Abramovich is a ridiculously wealthy football fan, who decided to buy a club. If you were a billionaire and could afford anything you wanted, I'm sure you'd buy Spurs and fulfil your wildest dreams.FrostyNRG said:
Clearly Roman didn't buy a club as a commercial project to promote other interests as is the case with City. But the investment he's made has been far reaching, both on a global and local scale. I doubt these fans from Asia or Africa would be posting about the possibility of us signing Hazard on Goal.com had Roman not made said investments. He built a football museum, Cobham of course, a host of youth talent promotion schemes locally, the whole strategy to improve the global fan base (did you assume that just happened over night?), now the new Stadium since SB can't be expanded.
I'm proud of what he's achieved here and how we're developing. We're not far off breaking even ourselves, which people like to deny. Our turnover is consistently higher than Arsenal's, just behind Bayern's and we've yet to move into our new stadium and exploit a naming rights deal. When that happens we'll be in a pretty healthy position. Comparable to the plans City's owners have? Probably not, but a healthy position none the less.
And who couldn't be proud of an owner who shows up at a local bar in NY while he's on business to watch a midweek league tie against Bolton and buy everyone a round? I think you should be asking questions of whoever was in charge at Spurs when the fax came through looking for a meeting in 2003, which was ignored.
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Twitter rumour (it's twitter so take it as you will)
Spuds in for Carol 10 million
Spuds in for Carol 10 million
r.soleofsalford
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Ducado said:
crouch replacement lol
At Liverpool Carroll is isolated as they are defensive and he's no good at running on to through balls. At spurs he'd get proper service from the wings. I don't think he's a top 4 player, but he's not the no hoper that some make him out to be.
If Spurs are in for him I'd be surprised. Liverpool would need a replacement too. Defoe? I prefer Defoe
If Spurs are in for him I'd be surprised. Liverpool would need a replacement too. Defoe? I prefer Defoe
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FrostyNRG said:
What was the point of bringing that up then? Not like it was relevant, was it? If you are going to commence your membership of this forum by stating,
It somewhat astounds me that people can't have a (actually quite interesting) discussion without resorting to snide retorts and point scoring. ...It would just be nice to see rational discussion with people taking their blinkers off to be honest.
then you should adhere to your views yourself.
P.S. Other than that, I thought your initial post was quite good ;o)
DTeacher said:
Fair point DTeacher, but it was wasn't a random comment in isolation. I was responding to a comment about how Spurs "success" is overblown in the media and explaining my relative apathy to what the press writes about my club. Given the nature of my comment I feel it was relevant to mention how I felt when I perceived that our rivals were constantly being lauded in the press. It wasn't even a dig at Ars*nal to be honest. Although I'm perfectly capable of them when the need arises ;-)
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Marvin said:
I don't particularly disagree with you - although I think ridiculed is probably too strong a word. I don't really read an awful lot of sports related editorial to be honest - but I would say that as fans we probably remember the negative things we hear/read about our club more than the positive.
@Castiel, sorry I missed your earlier post. I don't disagree at all with your comment that RA is a wealthy football fan that I would probably do the same with Spurs were I a billionaire. That was kind of my point, really. That his purchase of the club was for his personal enjoyment primarily. It wasn't actually a criticism of his approach, more a comparison with what has been done at MC as I believe (admittedly with probably limited knowledge) that one is significantly more commerically sound than the other. I know a lot of Chelsea fans and, for the most part, they fear for the future should RA ever lose interest. Whether there is any grounds for their concern, I obviously don't know.
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Bit off topic I know, but Spurs fans are all going to the FA youth cup game vs Charlton at the valley, it's on the 16th february and it was organised after hearing the fighting cock podcast. They feel the u18's need to experience what it would be like to play for the first team. It's called project TottenhamUltras. Apparently a few 1000 are already going as it's £5 at the ground. If any yids are interested it's 7:00pm kick off. You can meet at a bar near the valley but can't remember what it's called :S the only rule is to sing your heart out and give the lads a night to remember. Sounds like a decent idea!
Edit/: Their will be a video made by one of the Fighting Cock producers on the website, just for those who would like to see it.
Edit/: Their will be a video made by one of the Fighting Cock producers on the website, just for those who would like to see it.
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yido in briefs said:
Measuring profile is difficult. However, I am sure there a number of proxy methods could be used. For example, number of people around the world who follow the club on the various social media platforms. How about comparing how many Twitter followers and Facebook friends they have compared to City? It’s certainly not a perfect measure and would only be indicative at best.
As someone alluded to earlier, it is important to have ‘profile’. ‘Profile’ helps to attract sponsorhip/commercial partners and increase the fanbase, as well as merchandise sales.
I would think we are well on our way to out-performing you in these areas. This would suggest we have a higher profile. If I could access Swiss Ramble’s blog, I would post the relevant figures.
I am not going to say whether or not City have had a higher profile than Spurs in the past, I just don’t know. However, you are being blinded by lilywhite blinkers if you think you have a profile on a level similar to ours. I accept we cannot match the SKY4 just yet, but I think apart from those, we have a worldwide profile that is bigger than any other club in the Prem. I also think our profile will grow more and more over the next few years, at a level that Spurs simply cannot match.
If I was an investor, I would buy Newcastle. Newcastle probably have a bigger fanbase (and potentially bigger too), they have a larger stadium and would probably cost about a third as much as Spurs. I appreciate that Spurs can (and tend to) charge extortionate prices based on their geographical location (a distinct financial advantage for London clubs and certainly helps Spurs manage their finances – don’t you think?) and they may be able to attract better players (although none of them will live in Tottenham or hovels like Essex). However, the amount that Lewis will ask for Spurs will be way over the top.
I would also think Arsenal are a better investment than Spurs.
I heard a rumour that your waiting list fell by several thousand last year. Why do you think that was?