The Waiting List

matrix said:
Blue Streak said:
Okay I signed up for this about a month ago now but how do you find where you are in the list?

When you first went on the waiting list you should have received an email to confirm your payment and this will have your waiting list number on it.


Yes just found it cheers. 5564.
 
Not so much about the waiting list but maybe with the stadium expansion it may be easier to actually get a seat next.to your mate,,the club hardly make it easy to do this in close season in fact its pretty dam shit as you either take a day of work and get your arse down to the club to actually speak to someone there or you have to wait a day and half (as my mate did) to try and move to a seat I new would be free next to me as it was my lad was not renewing only for it to go....piss up in a brewery springs to mind on this matter....a fucking joke to put it more bluntly
 
Wish I'd have signed up to this sooner when I had the funds rather than pissing it away! Signed up just now and I'm 6050 something along with my mate.

Always wanted a season ticket but had a shitty weekend job when I was younger and now is the first time I've been able to splurge! Can't wait!
 
Do you reckon these numbers are sequential? Would explain a lot if they are not. If they are, then the demand is phenomenal. I'm struggling to believe that after 3-4 months, that hundreds are still applying
 
Marvin said:
Do you reckon these numbers are sequential? Would explain a lot if they are not. If they are, then the demand is phenomenal. I'm struggling to believe that after 3-4 months, that hundreds are still applying

If it is a waiting list then the numbers will be sequential!

Remember we slready replace about 2k of season ticket holders every year, before the expansion. We also increased the number of season tickets a bit last year.
 
Bilboblue said:
Wilf Wild 1937 said:
So Friday morning we were at 5979 and on Monday night 6050. This shows no sign of slowing down!

That's what a rip-roaring win against the mighty Stoke does for ya ;o)

LOL. I can't see the stadium only having one expanded end for long. They will probably open it for the start of the 2015-16 season
then commence work on the North Stand in Summer 2016 with that opening for 2017-18. Imagine how many will sign up next week
if we beat Sunderland.
 
The new South Stand tier will hold 6,250. So if we're at 6,050 plus a decision must be imminent

a) Build both stands concurrently

b) Close the list

If the list stays open then assume that either both stands get built concurrently or the 2nd follows on almost immediately. At the moment there's no commitment to expand the North Stand, but leaving the waiting list open would amount to a nod and a wink that the 2nd stand will be going ahead. Otherwise it's mis-selling
 
The problem being, how many of those fans that have signed up for the new £299 season tickets will get them?

There's only a limited amount.

Will those fans opt for the dearer season tickets lower down in the 3rd tier or ask for a refund?

The club now has a problem.

Do they turn fans away who have paid their deposits as demand has out-stripped supply, or does the club honour that £299 price/season ticket, regardless of where that seat is in the new South Stand 3rd tier?

And at this rate the club will have to seriously think about expanding the North Stand as well, or expand the lower tier by 3 rows. 6050 new season tickets holders in 3-4 months is phenomenal, especially when you consider there is well over year to go until the expansion is complete.

Also. How does that effect current season ticket holders as the majority are paying well in excess of £500 for their season tickets?(minus Kids/OAP's)

How will they react knowing new season ticket holders are paying less?(not having a pop at our new season ticket holders :-) )

So many questions. :-?
 
jrb said:
The problem being, how many of those fans that have signed up for the new £299 season tickets will get them?

There's only a limited amount.

Will those fans opt for the dearer season tickets lower down in the 3rd tier or ask for a refund?

The club now has a problem.

Do they turn fans away who have paid their deposits as demand has out-stripped supply, or does the club honour that £299 price/season ticket, regardless of where that seat is in the new South Stand 3rd tier?

And at this rate, the club will have to seriously think about expanding the North Stand as well, or expand the lower tier by 3 rows. 6050 new season tickets holders in 3-4 months is phenomenal, especially when you consider there is well over another year to go until the expansion is complete.

Also. How does that effect current season ticket holders, as the majority are paying well in excess of £500 for their season tickets?(minus Kids/OAP's)

How will they react knowing new season ticket holders are paying less?(not having a pop at our new season ticket holders :-) )

So many questions. :-?
Would be a real shame to choke off growth of the club. Make the most of the good times whilst they are here.

If there were logistical reasons for not building both stands at the same time, why raise it as a possibility in the first place?
 
Marvin said:
jrb said:
The problem being, how many of those fans that have signed up for the new £299 season tickets will get them?

There's only a limited amount.

Will those fans opt for the dearer season tickets lower down in the 3rd tier or ask for a refund?

The club now has a problem.

Do they turn fans away who have paid their deposits as demand has out-stripped supply, or does the club honour that £299 price/season ticket, regardless of where that seat is in the new South Stand 3rd tier?

And at this rate, the club will have to seriously think about expanding the North Stand as well, or expand the lower tier by 3 rows. 6050 new season tickets holders in 3-4 months is phenomenal, especially when you consider there is well over another year to go until the expansion is complete.

Also. How does that effect current season ticket holders, as the majority are paying well in excess of £500 for their season tickets?(minus Kids/OAP's)

How will they react knowing new season ticket holders are paying less?(not having a pop at our new season ticket holders :-) )

So many questions. :-?
Would be a real shame to choke off growth of the club. Make the most of the good times whilst they are here.

If there were logistical reasons for not building both stands at the same time, why raise it as a possibility in the first place?

Having been on the fans consult group I can confirm that the club advised that they absolutely have the capability to do both ends at once (indeed economies of scale make it preferable) - final decision will be based on the size of the list plus their knowledge of "usual" non-renewal numbers.

Purely a personal view but if the list hits 8500-9000 they will have to do both at once but if it stays below 8500 I could see one end only - Maths being 6250 new seats and just over 2000 who don't renew each season for varying reasons
 
Marvin said:
jrb said:
The problem being, how many of those fans that have signed up for the new £299 season tickets will get them?

There's only a limited amount.

Will those fans opt for the dearer season tickets lower down in the 3rd tier or ask for a refund?

The club now has a problem.

Do they turn fans away who have paid their deposits as demand has out-stripped supply, or does the club honour that £299 price/season ticket, regardless of where that seat is in the new South Stand 3rd tier?

And at this rate, the club will have to seriously think about expanding the North Stand as well, or expand the lower tier by 3 rows. 6050 new season tickets holders in 3-4 months is phenomenal, especially when you consider there is well over another year to go until the expansion is complete.

Also. How does that effect current season ticket holders, as the majority are paying well in excess of £500 for their season tickets?(minus Kids/OAP's)

How will they react knowing new season ticket holders are paying less?(not having a pop at our new season ticket holders :-) )

So many questions. :-?
Would be a real shame to choke off growth of the club. Make the most of the good times whilst they are here.

If there were logistical reasons for not building both stands at the same time, why raise it as a possibility in the first place?

It would be more efficient to do one after the other wouldn't it? - Being efficient/ cutting out waste is what logistics is about.
 
Just asking.

Can anyone confirm where the 2000 who don't renew each season comes from?

I find that high, and wouldn't think it's that many. I could be wrong?

In fact, weren't season ticket holders increased from 36,000 to 38,000?

That tells me that the original 36,000 season tickets were annually snapped up, without large loss of renewals.
 
jrb said:
Just asking.

Can anyone confirm where the 2000 who don't renew each season come from?

I find that high, and wouldn't think it's that many. I could be wrong?

In fact, weren't season ticket holders increased from 36,000 to 38,000?

That tells me that the original 36,000 season tickets were annually snapped up, without large loss of renewals.

I agree it seems high but also seems to be regularly quoted but I guess death, illness, age divorce, employment/financial status, university, emigration etc all adds up
 
Is this 6000 odd figure just new people that are applying or is it existing season ticket holders wanting to move into the cheaper seats ???

I know a lot of people that would want and always go for the cheaper seats
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Is this 6000 odd figure just new people that are applying or is it existing season ticket holders wanting to move into the cheaper seats ???

I know a lot of people that would want and always go for the cheaper seats


Purely new people.
 
kbb said:
Marvin said:
jrb said:
The problem being, how many of those fans that have signed up for the new £299 season tickets will get them?

There's only a limited amount.

Will those fans opt for the dearer season tickets lower down in the 3rd tier or ask for a refund?

The club now has a problem.

Do they turn fans away who have paid their deposits as demand has out-stripped supply, or does the club honour that £299 price/season ticket, regardless of where that seat is in the new South Stand 3rd tier?

And at this rate, the club will have to seriously think about expanding the North Stand as well, or expand the lower tier by 3 rows. 6050 new season tickets holders in 3-4 months is phenomenal, especially when you consider there is well over another year to go until the expansion is complete.

Also. How does that effect current season ticket holders, as the majority are paying well in excess of £500 for their season tickets?(minus Kids/OAP's)

How will they react knowing new season ticket holders are paying less?(not having a pop at our new season ticket holders :-) )

So many questions. :-?
Would be a real shame to choke off growth of the club. Make the most of the good times whilst they are here.

If there were logistical reasons for not building both stands at the same time, why raise it as a possibility in the first place?

Having been on the fans consult group I can confirm that the club advised that they absolutely have the capability to do both ends at once (indeed economies of scale make it preferable) - final decision will be based on the size of the list plus their knowledge of "usual" non-renewal numbers.

Purely a personal view but if the list hits 8500-9000 they will have to do both at once but if it stays below 8500 I could see one end only - Maths being 6250 new seats and just over 2000 who don't renew each season for varying reasons
Any idea when this final decision has to be made by? Perhaps it's open ended as the planning consent is there.
 
kbb said:
Having been on the fans consult group I can confirm that the club advised that they absolutely have the capability to do both ends at once (indeed economies of scale make it preferable) - final decision will be based on the size of the list plus their knowledge of "usual" non-renewal numbers.

Purely a personal view but if the list hits 8500-9000 they will have to do both at once but if it stays below 8500 I could see one end only - Maths being 6250 new seats and just over 2000 who don't renew each season for varying reasons


Given that we have 3 months to go before renewals and are still adding a couple of hundred to the list each week, even though the initial
rush has subsided, I think we will be at 8,500 by then. If we assume that a couple of thousand don't renew we will still have 6-6,500 on the list
after renewals with 12 months to go. The worrying thing is that a large proportion of these people will be those wanting the cheaper seats.
Some may of been high on the list but declined existing seats for 2014-15 because they simply couldn't afford them. We are then bound to add
considerably more than 2,000 to the list during the 2014-15 season. I fear jrb and Marvin are both right: we are limiting our growth and risk
upsetting a lot of people.
 

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