This Cesspit of a City

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I found myself homeless once and I stayed in Brindale house briefly in the 80's....I lasted one night and slept in my car for a week instead
 
5. There Are Many More Really Big Businesses In Manchester It's great to have lots of growing businesses, but the ones that really set the pace in the office market are the larger enterprises with turnover of £50M or more. This is the sector that has really changed things, although you need to look at the figures in a slightly different way to spot it. That is because the proportion of large businesses in Greater Manchester is unchanged (1.2% in both 2017 and 2018, both miles ahead of the national average of just 0.3% of businesses). But the proportion is not what matters, it is the sheer number of them and the rate that this number is growing. The results are staggering: rising from 285 in the county, and 85 in the city in 2017, to 310 in the county, and 90 in the city in 2018. That's 8.7% annual growth of larger corporates in Greater Manchester (closer to 6% in the city). The U.K.-wide figure, for comparison, is up 6% and the West Midlands connurbation is up 3.6% and Birmingham city's stock of £50M-plus businesses didn't move at all

Read more at: https://www.bisnow.com/manchester/news/economic-development/how-manchesters-economy-is-changing-shape-and-what-property-needs-to-know-about-it-93816?

Not doing too bad for a cesspit.
 
Not to sound pervy or sexist but one thing this inner city rapid growth (which admittedly has led to other areas being neglected) and it becoming a truly multicultural city has seen the abundance of extremely fit women around the place from around the world, and on balance I am sure their are attractive men about for the BM ladies.

NB also I am not suggesting local lasses were not attractive either ;-)
 
I'm looking through older eyes and still have the memory of Piccadilly gardens and the underground market etc, but Manchester seems to be more scruffy more threatening and less friendly than it used to be. Again maybe I am looking at it wrong because it isn't my time now and it wont be again.
 
oldtimerdiscopants said:
I'm looking through older eyes and still have the memory of Piccadilly gardens and the underground market etc, but Manchester seems to be more scruffy more threatening and less friendly than it used to be. Again maybe I am looking at it wrong because it isn't my time now and it wont be again.
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No from the gardens up market street it's a scruffy old shit tip, as you move away from there though it has it's places worth hanging around or going for a drink
 
oldtimerdiscopants said:
I'm looking through older eyes and still have the memory of Piccadilly gardens and the underground market etc, but Manchester seems to be more scruffy more threatening and less friendly than it used to be. Again maybe I am looking at it wrong because it isn't my time now and it wont be again.
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You’re looking in the wrong place. Whilst town is covered in detritus and the shops, pavements and gutters are littered with filth, shit, drug-addled delinquents and various other tripe, stare upwards and admire the cranes. We’ve loads of them. All is well. It really isn’t a shit tip. I shall now relinquish my star-gazing glasses and check out the reality…yep, as I thought. A dump.
 
mancityvstoke said:
I found myself homeless once and I stayed in Brindale house briefly in the 80's....I lasted one night and slept in my car for a week instead
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Found my self homeless once !! Bet it was every weekend following city back in the day, I know I’ve slept on a few mates sofas as well as gennels, sheds, and anywhere else warm after strolling home pissed at 2 in the morning coming back from so god forsaken land in the 2nd division
 
urban genie said:
Not to sound pervy or sexist but one thing this inner city rapid growth (which admittedly has led to other areas being neglected) and it becoming a truly multicultural city has seen the abundance of extremely fit women around the place from around the world, and on balance I am sure their are attractive men about for the BM ladies.

NB also I am not suggesting local lasses were not attractive either ;-)
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Pitty they weren’t about 30 years ago all we got was the ritz grannies oh well fond memories
 
johnnytapia said:
You’re looking in the wrong place. Whilst town is covered in detritus and the shops, pavements and gutters are littered with filth, shit, drug-addled delinquents and various other tripe, stare upwards and admire the cranes. We’ve loads of them. All is well. It really isn’t a shit tip. I shall now relinquish my star-gazing glasses and check out the reality…yep, as I thought. A dump.
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Shh! Don't you know there are 20 cranes in the city, although no one mentios that 9 of them are working on only 3 sites in the same area so plus 3 per other site so basically 6 building sites have cranes on them,
Indaparkside said:
Potty they weren’t about 30 years ago all we got was the ritz grannies oh well fond memories
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Spinnigfields of an afternoon is no bouncy floor on a friday night grab a granny session or the ritz I will tell ya.
 
urban genie said:
Shh! Don't you know there are 20 cranes in the city, although no one mentios that 9 of them are working on only 3 sites in the same area so plus 3 per other site so basically 6 building sites have cranes on them,


Spinnigfields of an afternoon is no bouncy floor on a friday night grab a granny session or the ritz I will tell ya.
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Tell you what if you didn’t cop off in the ritz you must of been 1, ugly fooker some of the women were like big foot guaranteed a shag
 
johnnytapia said:
You’re looking in the wrong place. Whilst town is covered in detritus and the shops, pavements and gutters are littered with filth, shit, drug-addled delinquents and various other tripe, stare upwards and admire the cranes. We’ve loads of them. All is well. It really isn’t a shit tip. I shall now relinquish my star-gazing glasses and check out the reality…yep, as I thought. A dump.
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Bollocks. Spinningfields looks great. The fact it makes up 0.00001 of the area of Manchester doesn’t matter
 
worsleyweb said:
I am really surprised at that. Spinning fields is really pleasant.
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The environment is but the fact remains, Manchester is not a city that can sustain such establishments, certainly in terms of a lunchtime crowd.

Manchester is a 9-5 city, with bars purporting to be restaurants and style over substance.

Living Ventures seems to be in trouble and over-leveraged, having to be carried by Australasia and Grand Pacific in recent months.
 
worsleyweb said:
5. There Are Many More Really Big Businesses In Manchester It's great to have lots of growing businesses, but the ones that really set the pace in the office market are the larger enterprises with turnover of £50M or more. This is the sector that has really changed things, although you need to look at the figures in a slightly different way to spot it. That is because the proportion of large businesses in Greater Manchester is unchanged (1.2% in both 2017 and 2018, both miles ahead of the national average of just 0.3% of businesses). But the proportion is not what matters, it is the sheer number of them and the rate that this number is growing. The results are staggering: rising from 285 in the county, and 85 in the city in 2017, to 310 in the county, and 90 in the city in 2018. That's 8.7% annual growth of larger corporates in Greater Manchester (closer to 6% in the city). The U.K.-wide figure, for comparison, is up 6% and the West Midlands connurbation is up 3.6% and Birmingham city's stock of £50M-plus businesses didn't move at all

Read more at: https://www.bisnow.com/manchester/news/economic-development/how-manchesters-economy-is-changing-shape-and-what-property-needs-to-know-about-it-93816?

Not doing too bad for a cesspit.
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Manchester is great for the investors and businesses moving here. The scope for things to invest in and the new office spaces are abundant.

The investors don't have to and probably don't live here though. They don't have to witness spice heads vomiting on the Met or shitting right there in a busy city centre street, don't have to walk through uncollected bins on city centre street corners where the bin is full but there are also twenty bin bags sat at the side of it with litter everywhere, don't have to avoid getting mugged by these youths who are more and more prevalent in the city centre, probably don't live in any of the suburbs where fly tipping is at an all-time high and the Council's cleaning up of it is at an all-time low...

We are getting investment in the same few areas of commerce as well. Where is the investment into street cleaning and maintenance of pavements, roads and fixtures like fences/lampposts/signs? Where is the investment into transport improvements (the scale of PER HEAD investment and spending in London compared to PER HEAD in Manchester is embarrassing!)? Where is the investment into tackling the homelessness problem?

A nice new residential tower looks beautiful from the top of the Pennines but when you realise that 25% of it will lie empty as they are just owned by Russian and Suadi billionaires who don't even come to this country never mind this city (and certainly never mind live in the apartments) you realise we don't actually need them... it's more SOCIAL (not affordable) housing that is needed; it's city centre schools, doctors, dentists etc. that are needed.
 
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