MouldensChippy
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jonmcfc said:
Bang on the money.
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Those who think there's no agenda need to read this...
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Bang on the money.
whyalwaysLee
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Some people on here need to give their heads a wobble.
If the rags win 1-0 = "Referee gave them a helping hand, we never get those decisions."
If the rags win 3-0 = "The other team rolled over, nobody ever does this for us!"
There's nothing wrong with blues not giving them any credit, but when you tie it into a bizarre conspiracy theory that spans a 38 game season where everyone plays each other twice, it's rather embarrassing.
If the rags win 1-0 = "Referee gave them a helping hand, we never get those decisions."
If the rags win 3-0 = "The other team rolled over, nobody ever does this for us!"
There's nothing wrong with blues not giving them any credit, but when you tie it into a bizarre conspiracy theory that spans a 38 game season where everyone plays each other twice, it's rather embarrassing.
in my opinion, we just havent been good enough since christmas and didnt cope without yaya etc during the ACON, even if some decisions havent gone our way, we've not been on the money
why do i get the feeling we're already creating excuses for not winning the title? we're still in it ffs, but if we lose today and the rags win, then imo thats it
why do i get the feeling we're already creating excuses for not winning the title? we're still in it ffs, but if we lose today and the rags win, then imo thats it
MouldensChippy said:jonmcfc said:Thats why we rely on refs and not tech for decisions as tech can`t cheat but refs do nuff said
Bang on the money.
To be fair that is a very good argument and I have now changed my mind.
Anyone who don't think there's an agenda is a **** nuff said.
By the way, have you heard how the best club side in the history of the world aren't even top of their domestic league with a handful of games to go?
That's a conspiracy if ever I saw one.
I blame Howard Webb.
burning blue soul
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it is my theory that there is an unconscious will of the referees to look on our play in a harsher way than for other teams.
it is not their fault, but a combination of things.
however, they are human, they read the same papers and listen to the same punits and fans as we do. the consensus from most is that we have bought our way to the top and that is cheating (according to them). the refs will feel the same way and it shows in the decisions they are making.
they dont do it on purpose, its unconscious beliefs from dodgy propaganda.
it will change next year, bu this year they will make us suffer.
it is not their fault, but a combination of things.
however, they are human, they read the same papers and listen to the same punits and fans as we do. the consensus from most is that we have bought our way to the top and that is cheating (according to them). the refs will feel the same way and it shows in the decisions they are making.
they dont do it on purpose, its unconscious beliefs from dodgy propaganda.
it will change next year, bu this year they will make us suffer.
Bill
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Can I just say hi to all our rag friends.
Cheers.
Cheers.
squirtyflower
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two out of three posts so close ain't bad is itde niro said:Can I just say hi to all our rag friends.
Cheers.
burning blue soul said:it is my theory that there is an unconscious will of the referees to look on our play in a harsher way than for other teams.
it is not their fault, but a combination of things.
however, they are human, they read the same papers and listen to the same punits and fans as we do. the consensus from most is that we have bought our way to the top and that is cheating (according to them). the refs will feel the same way and it shows in the decisions they are making.
they dont do it on purpose, its unconscious beliefs from dodgy propaganda.
it will change next year, bu this year they will make us suffer.
A sensible and fairly accurate opinion, which I believe explains some of the bad refereeing decisions against us this season.
PistonBlue
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" Peter Walton, in the last 22 matches where he has refereed City or United, has produced 0 City victories and 0 United defeats, but there are two (possibly three) other PGMOB referees with a marked bias in decision making in favour of the Old Trafford club - Chris Foy, Howard Webb and Anthony Taylor are the men in question.
In the 11 league matches since Newcastle/Blackburn (including the City/Utd FA Cup tie as it is pertinent to the argument), Manchester United have been given Walton, Webb, Foy or Taylor (WWFT) as referee/4th official for 8 of those matches.
WWFT gives United 6 wins 1 draw 0 defeats with Fulham to come!!!
We list these matches, results and match decisions at the end of this blog. In the same period, Manchester City have won 8 out of 9 league matches when not subjected to any of the WWFT team.
On the three occasions where WWFT have intervened, City lost at Everton, drew at Stoke and were mugged by Foy in the FA Cup match.
City 8 wins 0 draws 1 defeat without WWFT versus City 0 wins 1 draw 2 defeats with WWFT!!!"
Agenda or not, some of that is interesting reading, if those stats are true of course.
In the 11 league matches since Newcastle/Blackburn (including the City/Utd FA Cup tie as it is pertinent to the argument), Manchester United have been given Walton, Webb, Foy or Taylor (WWFT) as referee/4th official for 8 of those matches.
WWFT gives United 6 wins 1 draw 0 defeats with Fulham to come!!!
We list these matches, results and match decisions at the end of this blog. In the same period, Manchester City have won 8 out of 9 league matches when not subjected to any of the WWFT team.
On the three occasions where WWFT have intervened, City lost at Everton, drew at Stoke and were mugged by Foy in the FA Cup match.
City 8 wins 0 draws 1 defeat without WWFT versus City 0 wins 1 draw 2 defeats with WWFT!!!"
Agenda or not, some of that is interesting reading, if those stats are true of course.
I understand those people who are saying that we haven't been good enough for the last month or so, but are you really going to discount everything that happened prior such as the kompany send off or the balotelli witch hunt? Its fucking mind boggling.