Three dead in Belgium

[stonerblue]

Just reading about this. Doesn't sound much like a muslim terrorist attack, more a criminal who was about to be caught so had one last hurrah. Would love to see some kind of evidence of him shouting Allahu Akbar' because that seems to be the go to response every time something like this happens, even when it's not true.

Agreed. The only evidence that is indisputable was that this man had been a criminal most of his life and locked up several times for assault and drug offences.

 

[worsleyweb]

I am not an Islamist apologist - if you can support that outrageous allegation please do.

Manchester - as part of the UK - became a target of radicalised Islamists who want to attack the west which they see as a colonialist and a non-islamic country ( various people will have various reasons along both lines). To suggest that the involvement of the UK and other coalition forces in the Middle East since say Desert Storm in 1991 all the way through to today is not being used against the UK populace by those who seek to radicalise mostly young muslim men who then visit terror attacks on us is to hide your head in the sand. To deny that involvement in the Arab world has no contributory factor to the attacks all across Europe is naive in the extreme. Our involvement there is also part of the reason for people fleeing en mass from those countries to what they see as a safe haven in the EU.

You are a classic example of the consistent case as reported throughout the book the strange death of Europe. Apologising for our continent being invaded by terrorists and cultures alien to ours. My recent visits to Paris scared the shit out of me.

 

[bluethrunthru]

You are a classic example of the consistent case as reported throughout the book the strange death of Europe. Apologising for our continent being invaded by terrorists and cultures alien to ours. My recent visits to Paris scared the shit out of me.

show me the apology I made or shut up.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

It is indeed a strange mindset that leads someone who has, apparently, had the shit bombed out of him in his home
country, to want to settle in the very country that has just bombed said shit out of him.
I don't recall thousands of Brits scrambling get into Germany after the Luftwaffe has just flattened their towns and cities, very weird.

 

[johnnytapia]

Funny, strange, weird, that none of the Christians, Jews, Hindis, Buddhists, living in Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, etc, etc, decided that they needed to relocate to the bad old west and shoot innocent men, women, boys and girls. Funny too that none of the Christian Somalians feel the need to genitally mutilate their young girls. Guess which religion does want that to happen though? No need to answer. We all know. Liege is just another to add to the never ending list of these acts. Carried out simply because they want to live in a Caliphate. They hate our culture, hate our Judo-Christian foundations. They love hate. And death. Death of the innocents. Cue apologist, hand-wringing drivel from the usual suspects...

 

[bluethrunthru]

Thing is if that religion wants to attack the west we give them ammunition to use to radicalise young men to their cause - the news shows the effects of bombing and so on and that helps the radicalisation process.

In the 70's and 80,s the IRA cleverly manipulated news reports and stories coming out of Ulster to harness the cash cow that was Irish America - places like Boston raised millions because the Irish Americans there saw the IRA as freedom fighters and wouldn't listen when we told them they were terrorists. Those millions bought guns off Ghadaffi and and bomb making equipment to kill and maim civillians just like is happening now. To put into perspective of how bloody that conflict was its estimated Republicans alone killed around 3,600 people over the 30 year campaign. If you look at other terror attacks and include Lockerbie and the murder of Jo Cox MP there have been 361 deaths at the hands of extremists.

This isn't hand wringing or apologist its understanding how the propaganda war is being fought and how we continually lose it from Boston the Baghdad

 

[bluethrunthru]

It is indeed a strange mindset that leads someone who has, apparently, had the shit bombed out of him in his home
country, to want to settle in the very country that has just bombed said shit out of him.
I don't recall thousands of Brits scrambling get into Germany after the Luftwaffe has just flattened their towns and cities, very weird.

That could be because we were bombing the shit out of Europe too? They see Europe as an intact safe environment - there will have been a point in WW2 when it was probably hard to tell Coventry or parts of London from Parts of Berlin or Tokyo so even if such a move was possible there was nothing to be gained.

 

[Mon Autre]

It is indeed a strange mindset that leads someone who has, apparently, had the shit bombed out of him in his home
country, to want to settle in the very country that has just bombed said shit out of him.
I don't recall thousands of Brits scrambling get into Germany after the Luftwaffe has just flattened their towns and cities, very weird.

Thousands of German Jews fled to the UK during WW2.

 

[johnnytapia]

Thing is if that religion wants to attack the west we give them ammunition to use to radicalise young men to their cause - the news shows the effects of bombing and so on and that helps the radicalisation process.

In the 70's and 80,s the IRA cleverly manipulated news reports and stories coming out of Ulster to harness the cash cow that was Irish America - places like Boston raised millions because the Irish Americans there saw the IRA as freedom fighters and wouldn't listen when we told them they were terrorists. Those millions bought guns off Ghadaffi and and bomb making equipment to kill and maim civillians just like is happening now. To put into perspective of how bloody that conflict was its estimated Republicans alone killed around 3,600 people over the 30 year campaign. If you look at other terror attacks and include Lockerbie and the murder of Jo Cox MP there have been 361 deaths at the hands of extremists.

This isn't hand wringing or apologist its understanding how the propaganda war is being fought and how we continually lose it from Boston the Baghdad

Republicans were responsible for just under 1800 killings, Loyalists, just under 1000, British Army 300 of the TOTAL number, which is generally accepted at 3466.

Genuine question: how many girls do you recall suffering from FGM at your school(s). Mine: zero. Latest figures were over 118,000 in the UK. Who/What's to blame? Blair? Bush? Thatcher? The girls? All part and parcel of the virulent strain that has fuck all to do with Western policies. And all those girls groomed by Pakistani men well, they were asking for it weren't they? Pesky Western girls.

 

[hilts]

Just because the same poster consistently tells us why we need to take the blame and the perpetrators have a reason to feel aggrieved doesn’t make him/her a terrorist sympathiser. The posts may appear to be sympathetic, reading between the lines may suggest strong sympathy but no that isn’t the case.

Just to confirm I am sure he/she is not a terrorist sympathiser.