Thrown out for smoking- Help!

Re: it's smoking! (on the spirals)

Didn't see the north stand incident but did see a steward trying to call the odds to the smokers on the spiral adjacent cb stand L2 at the Aris game.
What are they like? I know that smoking's banned in 'indoor' public areas but the spirals are actually about as 'outside' as a person can get and they have a good breeze through them on the stillest of days. . only the smokers use them at half-time so what's the big issue?
There are perhaps a couple of hundred smokers on that ramp at most games and I think it was only because the numbers were low at the Aris game that gave the dimwitted steward on duty the courage to charge about causing needless upset. Let's face it, smoking is a recognised health issue nowadays and we all prefer smokeless restaurants but a smokeless outside concrete ramp open to the elements and not populated by any none smokers - is that entirely necessary??? Not as if the club give pass-outs at half time so that smokers can pop outside for a quick chuff is it.

All they'll achieve in their over-zealous fervour is to disenfranchise a substantial number of lifelong smokers who already attend the ramps for a ciggy so as to avoid any secondary risk to others.
If those unreasonable yellow jacketed pseudo police keep it up then the numbers will drop - especially when the games are televised live and smokers can just as well stay at home if made to feel so unwelcome by the self appointed smoke police.

Smoking on the exterior concrete ramps is not a fire hazard, it does not breach current legislation and it does no harm to anyone other than those adults who choose to go outside into the wind and weather to partake in their own little bit of personal madness.

As a ex-runner, I can appreciate how the 'my body is a temple' gang can be so dismissive of smokers needs but please please lay off them when they're doing no harm to anyone else.
 
Re: it's smoking! (on the spirals)

Big smoking thread about 3/4 down from this one mate would have been perfect...
 
blueinsa said:
SWP's back said:
But they are not dwindling though are they? We are on course for our highest ever league average attendance.

Look - if a copper tells you to watch the game and stop the banter then you have to stop. At Wolves away, the same thing happened to me, I was bantering with the home fans, things got heated. The cops pulled me out after a similar warning and I manged to talk my way back to my seat after a little chat on the concourse. It is par for the course nowadays. It is not City but the police that make these decisions.

Peter Fletcher is a total ****, i agree but he is ex-GMP and you know what blys in blue are like. Stick together and always make sure that they get their story straight.

They are certainly not what they should be, especially in non league games mate and a huge reason behind this apart form the cost issue is the complete lack of any atmosphere at the ground.

Cant sing, cant stand, cant pick your fucking nose for fear of someone here for the " City Matchday Experience " complaining about you.

Soulboy is spot on. The club is busy changing the demographics of the fanbase and many of us long time fans that have grown up with a different view to what terrace culture is all about are now being slowly pushed out.

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Then I suggest you move. I think the club are more than a little leniant in the way that they have the WHOLE of the SS as standing and blocks 109-111 the same.

They don't have to let us stand. We can shout and sing and swear as much as we want. There is no one thrown out of the bogs for smoking.

If you are so upset with your current match day experience, then move to one of those blocks.

Then hopefully, you may stop moaning on here.
 
Re: it's smoking! (on the spirals)

hisroyalblueness said:
Smoking on the exterior concrete ramps is not a fire hazard, it does not breach current legislation and it does no harm to anyone other than those adults who choose to go outside into the wind and weather to partake in their own little bit of personal madness.

As a ex-runner, I can appreciate how the 'my body is a temple' gang can be so dismissive of smokers needs but please please lay off them when they're doing no harm to anyone else.
It does, the Stadium is, by law, a "non-smoking venue". The spirals are part of that venue.
I'm pretty sure that the stewards are just doing what they are told to do by the legal/health and safety types at the club.
 
Re: it's smoking! (on the spirals)

Blue-Eyes said:
hisroyalblueness said:
Smoking on the exterior concrete ramps is not a fire hazard, it does not breach current legislation and it does no harm to anyone other than those adults who choose to go outside into the wind and weather to partake in their own little bit of personal madness.

As a ex-runner, I can appreciate how the 'my body is a temple' gang can be so dismissive of smokers needs but please please lay off them when they're doing no harm to anyone else.
It does, the Stadium is, by law, a "non-smoking venue". The spirals are part of that venue.
I'm pretty sure that the stewards are just doing what they are told to do by the legal/health and safety types at the club.

Whilst true, it is also bollocks as the council don't have people thrown out for smoking at concerts.
 
SWP's back said:
blueinsa said:
They are certainly not what they should be, especially in non league games mate and a huge reason behind this apart form the cost issue is the complete lack of any atmosphere at the ground.

Cant sing, cant stand, cant pick your fucking nose for fear of someone here for the " City Matchday Experience " complaining about you.

Soulboy is spot on. The club is busy changing the demographics of the fanbase and many of us long time fans that have grown up with a different view to what terrace culture is all about are now being slowly pushed out.

.

Then I suggest you move. I think the club are more than a little leniant in the way that they have the WHOLE of the SS as standing and blocks 109-111 the same.

They don't have to let us stand. We can shout and sing and swear as much as we want. There is no one thrown out of the bogs for smoking.

If you are so upset with your current match day experience, then move to one of those blocks.

Then hopefully, you may stop moaning on here.

Or don't read and respond to me if it bothers you that much.

I am in 116 for what its worth and yes, we can stand up but apart from that, the atmosphere is still shit.

The way the club have dealt with the seating at coms is a joke and they have never listened to the fans despite many many attempts at us getting them to change things.

SS should be home fans only and it should be the new Kippax.

The whole of the North stand as a family stand is a complete joke and i will be amazed if it has ever been full yet?

Way too many seats given over to corporate at the moment and again, they have never if ever been fully filled?

Away fans should be up in the corner of the east stand level 3.
 
SWP's back said:
blueinsa said:
They are certainly not what they should be, especially in non league games mate and a huge reason behind this apart form the cost issue is the complete lack of any atmosphere at the ground.

Cant sing, cant stand, cant pick your fucking nose for fear of someone here for the " City Matchday Experience " complaining about you.

Soulboy is spot on. The club is busy changing the demographics of the fanbase and many of us long time fans that have grown up with a different view to what terrace culture is all about are now being slowly pushed out.

.

Then I suggest you move. I think the club are more than a little leniant in the way that they have the WHOLE of the SS as standing and blocks 109-111 the same.

They don't have to let us stand. We can shout and sing and swear as much as we want. There is no one thrown out of the bogs for smoking.

If you are so upset with your current match day experience, then move to one of those blocks.

Then hopefully, you may stop moaning on here.


Me and my mates stood at the back of the South Stand for a couple of seasons. We couldn't believe our luck that we got 5 seats together right on the back row.

We soon found out why they were vacant!

The coppers were stood right behind us and everytime anyone on our row swore they were down warning them.

My mate got het up at the Spurs game... banned for a year (language, not violence) and another got pulled to the back of the stand because he called Barton a "****" for demanding a transfer. Warned that another word that season and he was banned. Those two lads were long-term regulars. They now pick and choose their matches.

We had to spend the whole two seasons watching the match in fear of saying anything. We couldn't wait to move.

And that was the South Stand.
 
Soulboy said:
SWP's back said:
Then I suggest you move. I think the club are more than a little leniant in the way that they have the WHOLE of the SS as standing and blocks 109-111 the same.

They don't have to let us stand. We can shout and sing and swear as much as we want. There is no one thrown out of the bogs for smoking.

If you are so upset with your current match day experience, then move to one of those blocks.

Then hopefully, you may stop moaning on here.


Me and my mates stood at the back of the South Stand for a couple of seasons. We couldn't believe our luck that we got 5 seats together right on the back row.

We soon found out why they were vacant!

The coppers were stood right behind us and everytime anyone on our row swore they were down warning them.

My mate got het up at the Spurs game... banned for a year (language, not violence) and another got pulled to the back of the stand because he called Barton a "****" for demanding a transfer. Warned that another word that season and he was banned. Those two lads were long-term regulars. They now pick and choose their matches.

We had to spend the whole two seasons watching the match in fear of saying anything. We couldn't wait to move.

And that was the South Stand.

If you notice above I stated that THE CLUB were more than leniant.

I have already said that the coppers will do as they please and the club cannot control them.

My advice, move away from them. Kippax Corner is game for a laugh.
 
This is funny/mental.

If you get warned for your conduct and then go completely against the warning then you're not that bright are you? And you can't really start bleating when you get turfed out. HEED THE WARNING.

And all this shit about blaming the club/the police/the stewards for the atmosphere is a complete pile of fucking nonsense. The FANS make the atmosphere and if you consider atmosphere to be flicking v's and swearing at people then you are sorely deluded. The Kop often generates a great atmosphere and they are nowhere near away fans and don't feel the need to 'bounce off' away supporters.

It's all a smokescreen and an excuse for our dwindling atmosphere at games because we are becoming complacent and expectant like fans of the other big clubs. There is no systematic change - that is paranoid drivel. Of course there has been a demographic shift over time and things like no smoking have come in and it is different to the Maine Road days. But like somone said, the club are way more lenient than others would be by letting us stand in the south stand which probably goes against all sorts of regulations. You can still have a beer, no-one stops you singing anything, you can stand up and sing your head off if you want to that badly.

So please give up the victim mentality because it isn't warranted.

That isn't all aimed at the people chucked out, it's aimed at every sorry sod blaming everyone except the fans.
 
SWP's back said:
Soulboy said:
Me and my mates stood at the back of the South Stand for a couple of seasons. We couldn't believe our luck that we got 5 seats together right on the back row.

We soon found out why they were vacant!

The coppers were stood right behind us and everytime anyone on our row swore they were down warning them.

My mate got het up at the Spurs game... banned for a year (language, not violence) and another got pulled to the back of the stand because he called Barton a "****" for demanding a transfer. Warned that another word that season and he was banned. Those two lads were long-term regulars. They now pick and choose their matches.

We had to spend the whole two seasons watching the match in fear of saying anything. We couldn't wait to move.

And that was the South Stand.

If you notice above I stated that THE CLUB were more than leniant.

I have already said that the coppers will do as they please and the club cannot control them.

My advice, move away from them. Kippax Corner is game for a laugh.


I take your point.

However, it is the CLUB that imposes the ban, not the police. The police simply report it and the club decide on what action to take.

So I would suggest that it is the club's decision.

Oh, and I have moved. I am now in the soporiphic Family stand... kids, eh?
 

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