Time To Back The Manager...

LoveCity said:
Maybe the players Mancini wants just can't be bought, which might frustrate him but that's life. We're clearly trying to get De Rossi for example but it just isn't likely to happen because of his attachment to Roma. Thiago Silva seems to be the defender he admires most but there is a 0% chance of that happening right now with him at Champions League chasing Milan and a hero to their fans. Then there are two others he admires, Cavani and Lavezzi, Napoli remain in the Champions League and De Laurenitis will simply not sell them until summer.

People go on and on about players like Samba and Ba who we could possibly get but it's quite possible Mancini just doesn't want them as we aren't even linked with these names.

I mean the board are still spending quietly on youth players like Pozo and are trying to sign others like Zouma and Shaw, so it's not like the wallet is completely shut.

Shaw isn't on our radar, he's off to Arsenal if anywhere...............
 
Danamy said:
LoveCity said:
Maybe the players Mancini wants just can't be bought, which might frustrate him but that's life. We're clearly trying to get De Rossi for example but it just isn't likely to happen because of his attachment to Roma. Thiago Silva seems to be the defender he admires most but there is a 0% chance of that happening right now with him at Champions League chasing Milan and a hero to their fans. Then there are two others he admires, Cavani and Lavezzi, Napoli remain in the Champions League and De Laurenitis will simply not sell them until summer.

People go on and on about players like Samba and Ba who we could possibly get but it's quite possible Mancini just doesn't want them as we aren't even linked with these names.

I mean the board are still spending quietly on youth players like Pozo and are trying to sign others like Zouma and Shaw, so it's not like the wallet is completely shut.

Shaw isn't on our radar, he's off to Arsenal if anywhere...............

He was on our radar (and Chelsea's) but he's choosing Arsenal over us, we offered £1million for him. Southampton apparently want £4million for him even though he's only 16, people reckon he will be a world class left-back. Looks like they're rivaling us for Sime Vrsaljko too.
 
LongsightM13 said:
Phase 3, 4, or 100? What the fuck is this made-up nonsense?
And who gives a shit if the media like the manager, as long as he is successful?
And what makes anyone think Guardiola would succeed anywhere else apart from Barca, where one of the best teams in the world has fallen into his lap? What makes anyone think he would succeed in England? And what makes anyone think he would come to England or to City of he did leave Barca?
Seems the anti-Mancini/pro-Mourinho mob are still alive and hiding in the sewers, but have little to slag him off at the moment. They are just there, waiting for him to fail and coming up with 'phase' bullshit to justify their inability to accept they were wrong, wrong, wrong.

I can't see anyone in this thread that's posted they want Mancini to fail, correct me if i'm wrong?

Why should this discussion/topic be so taboo?
 
Danamy said:
LongsightM13 said:
Phase 3, 4, or 100? What the fuck is this made-up nonsense?
And who gives a shit if the media like the manager, as long as he is successful?
And what makes anyone think Guardiola would succeed anywhere else apart from Barca, where one of the best teams in the world has fallen into his lap? What makes anyone think he would succeed in England? And what makes anyone think he would come to England or to City of he did leave Barca?
Seems the anti-Mancini/pro-Mourinho mob are still alive and hiding in the sewers, but have little to slag him off at the moment. They are just there, waiting for him to fail and coming up with 'phase' bullshit to justify their inability to accept they were wrong, wrong, wrong.

I can't see anyone in this thread that's posted they want Mancini to fail, correct me if i'm wrong?

Why should this discussion/topic be so taboo?

Because some fans find it hard to have a sensible debate regarding the future of our club. They find it strange at this stage of the season when we are doing so well that anyone could be thinking of life after Mancini if he fails.

If we don't win the league after being in control for most of the season then surly questions are gonna be asked. Out at the first hurdle in the champions league although we did have the toughest group, out of the F.A Cup 3 round, add failure to win the league with those two then he could be in big trouble.

Personally I think we will win the league and his job will be safe.
 
Danamy said:
LongsightM13 said:
Phase 3, 4, or 100? What the fuck is this made-up nonsense?
And who gives a shit if the media like the manager, as long as he is successful?
And what makes anyone think Guardiola would succeed anywhere else apart from Barca, where one of the best teams in the world has fallen into his lap? What makes anyone think he would succeed in England? And what makes anyone think he would come to England or to City of he did leave Barca?
Seems the anti-Mancini/pro-Mourinho mob are still alive and hiding in the sewers, but have little to slag him off at the moment. They are just there, waiting for him to fail and coming up with 'phase' bullshit to justify their inability to accept they were wrong, wrong, wrong.

I can't see anyone in this thread that's posted they want Mancini to fail, correct me if i'm wrong?

Why should this discussion/topic be so taboo?

Some of those who have criticised Roberto have been classed as members of an imaginary 'Cabal'. From what I've seen on here, if there is any organised group among us Blues, it would be composed of those who blindly worship Mancini regardless of his decisions and there can't be any doubt that he has been very variable in those.
The 'anti-cabal' brigade would be very happy to see nothing but praise for the boss on here, regardless of whatever nonsensical choices he makes.

Sorry: it ain't going to happen.
 
LoveCity said:
Danamy said:
LoveCity said:
Maybe the players Mancini wants just can't be bought, which might frustrate him but that's life. We're clearly trying to get De Rossi for example but it just isn't likely to happen because of his attachment to Roma. Thiago Silva seems to be the defender he admires most but there is a 0% chance of that happening right now with him at Champions League chasing Milan and a hero to their fans. Then there are two others he admires, Cavani and Lavezzi, Napoli remain in the Champions League and De Laurenitis will simply not sell them until summer.

People go on and on about players like Samba and Ba who we could possibly get but it's quite possible Mancini just doesn't want them as we aren't even linked with these names.

I mean the board are still spending quietly on youth players like Pozo and are trying to sign others like Zouma and Shaw, so it's not like the wallet is completely shut.

Shaw isn't on our radar, he's off to Arsenal if anywhere...............

He was on our radar (and Chelsea's) but he's choosing Arsenal over us, we offered £1million for him. Southampton apparently want £4million for him even though he's only 16, people reckon he will be a world class left-back. Looks like they're rivaling us for Sime Vrsaljko too.

There was no offer and we was never in for him.
We was (once again) used to ramp up the anti against Arsenal and Chelsea.
He'll end up at Arsenal with Arsene bending over backwards trying to get him, he's not stupid.
The lad is class and he's our future England left back.......quote me on it! ;-)
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Yaya_Tony said:
Didsbury Dave said:
You do not understand the definition of "on the line".
Perhaps he does, but doesn't think Mancini's job is at risk if we for whatever reason fail this season. I agree, we've made massive (sic) strides this season, and last, to get rid because a few decisions might not go our way would be ridiculously stupid, and ultimately futile. We'd be essentially back to square one. New manager with players he doesn't want.

I don't comment much, but your confrontational attitude and continual berating of the boss most of us deem fit to be in the position that he is, pisses me off. Fine, you have an opinion, fine you air it, but once is enough, I for one don't need to read it every time I log on. So just chill.

For the record, I stil think we will win the league despite all this type of shit, and I think Mancini will take City places we've never dreamed of in the coming years, as long as we support him and the club we love.

Knee jerk bollocks like this doesn't help..

I can't say I understand your need to be some kind of online celeb, your opinion is add valid as the next one, but please rein it in, man, as saying the same thing over and over in the same threads will not make it true.

Mancini is top class and will be here for a long time, even if it does fuck up this season, (which we won't).
There was no need to make the thread personal. I've agreed with a simple point which a certain type of fan might not like: that adug might be loath to keep throwing money at Mancini when he clicks his fingers because there's a chance he might fail. I've made it clear as day that I believe it's a slim chance.

People like you believe he has a job for life but the truth is, like all top European managers, he has a job for as long as he achieves his targets and the board retain confidence.

Why get personal? If you don't like my opinion argue against it. For therecords I have beleived since pre-season that we would win the league and i still do.

I think Mancini has had plenty of backing so far, and we have the squad to do the job. I think the board agree and want to comply with FFP. I don't think no transfers in this window means they don't have faith in him. I don't think he has a job for life, but at the same time not winning the league this season won't cost him his job in my opinion.

I don't think he is a stop gap manager who is keeping the seat warm for Mourinho, and I'm happy about that as I dislike Jose's style (except the winning and trophies, but I believe we'll get that with Bobby regardless).

I think the board have more patience than most clubs might have, and more than some give them credit for. I think they will have discussed what if situations at length with each other, maybe not covered everything but they will know nothing can be guaranteed 100% in sport. They will know what Mancini as a man is like, and trust him to raise, or continue to raise, the profile of the project. If my employers asked me where I want to be in 5 years, I am sure Bobby's would have.

I don't think he is cracking up under pressure, and I think he is great with certain players. The exceptions being mard arses like Tevez, Ade, Bridge and Nedum for example. He likes hard workand commitment, I think. I have no problems with the way he handles the media, or waving his hand at refs. If anything I'd like him to say more but that's it.

The interview with Platt a few weeks ago was most telling in my opinion. A man, fellow pro, colleague and friend who has known him 20 years talking about a determined winner who wants to make his mark and build a dynasty here as he was unable to do at Inter, but if given time would have.

In short, I think we have the right man for the job, the right man for us, and the board know it. Talk of the next man is very premature and potentially damaging, and I think he will prove anyone who thinks otherwise wrong. That's not to say his job is always going to be safe, but I think it is for now and will be barring an extraordinary turn of events.

Only my opinion though, of course, and we are all entitled to one.
 
Danamy said:
LongsightM13 said:
Phase 3, 4, or 100? What the fuck is this made-up nonsense?
And who gives a shit if the media like the manager, as long as he is successful?
And what makes anyone think Guardiola would succeed anywhere else apart from Barca, where one of the best teams in the world has fallen into his lap? What makes anyone think he would succeed in England? And what makes anyone think he would come to England or to City of he did leave Barca?
Seems the anti-Mancini/pro-Mourinho mob are still alive and hiding in the sewers, but have little to slag him off at the moment. They are just there, waiting for him to fail and coming up with 'phase' bullshit to justify their inability to accept they were wrong, wrong, wrong.

I can't see anyone in this thread that's posted they want Mancini to fail, correct me if i'm wrong?

Why should this discussion/topic be so taboo?

Thanks for pointing that out!

I have never once EVER called for Mancini's head. I am just giving the view that with manager's it's "horses for courses"... and I believe that Mancini will not be the one to build a dynasty for us.

That's all.

Mancini is, in my humble opinion, a firefighter. Someone you call on to shake things up, to take people on, to change the culture of an organisation.

Baconface was like that, but had to evolve over the years to keep in step with the changing nature of football.

I hope Mancini will also be able to do that (and Billy Shears felt he would be) but we can't keep on being confrontational with players. It costs way too much sticking to that policy!

Hopefully when Tevez (and maybe de Jong in the summer) move on, what will be left will be HIS players and that we can leave the deadwood behind.

For me, I'd give Mancini a 5 year contract tomorrow. But I'm not the owner. And my point of view was my perception of what they might want in the future.

It's an opinion.
 

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