marco said:blueincy said:BlueBearBoots said:I've tried ecigs and found I was using it far too much, bit like a dummy. My mate used them for about 3 years and was getting out of breath going up the stairs - he's a relatively fit bloke so was concerned and sought medical opinion. The consultant told him that although ecigs contained none of the nasty toxins that real cigs do they obviously contained nicotine and people tended to use them more than real cigs, sucking on them all the time. The increased amounts of nicotine he was having were causing his arteries to clog up, he's only in his 40's. He jacked in the ecigs and went back to real ones but cutting down slowly and hopefully will give up. Within a month of stopping the ecigs his shortness of breath had gone.
How does every one else use their ecigs? Just like. Few drags an hour or more or otherwise?
Tell him about these Tablets. Two and a half years later I still dont Smoke, so they do work.
The reason I gave up was because I was also out of breath going up stairs through Smoking that and being a fat c**t, still a bit portly but can do the stairs in 2.5 seconds without gasping for breath.
http://www.patient.co.uk/health/varenicline-champixr
not the old champix, well what a drug and it does exactly as it says on the tin, i went on these in the states under a sister brand name, you carry on smoking as normal and on the third or fourth day you will puke your guts up with the stench of fags, then you stop smoking with no withdraw symptoms at all ''but and their always is a but'' the night dreams were out of this world dreams that would put Spielberg to shame not a bad thing if you have a good one but i had to stop taking them in case i had a bad one, they were so real, if your thinking about this drug just google champix dreams, i would seriously advise NOT to take this drug
blueincy said:marco said:blueincy said:Tell him about these Tablets. Two and a half years later I still dont Smoke, so they do work.
The reason I gave up was because I was also out of breath going up stairs through Smoking that and being a fat c**t, still a bit portly but can do the stairs in 2.5 seconds without gasping for breath.
http://www.patient.co.uk/health/varenicline-champixr
not the old champix, well what a drug and it does exactly as it says on the tin, i went on these in the states under a sister brand name, you carry on smoking as normal and on the third or fourth day you will puke your guts up with the stench of fags, then you stop smoking with no withdraw symptoms at all ''but and their always is a but'' the night dreams were out of this world dreams that would put Spielberg to shame not a bad thing if you have a good one but i had to stop taking them in case i had a bad one, they were so real, if your thinking about this drug just google champix dreams, i would seriously advise NOT to take this drug
You pick a day to Quit between day 9 and 15 if I remember right and on that day you no longer want one. I was never sick or felt sick when I completed the course. You have to see the Nurse at your doctors every 4 or 5 weeks for updates on how things are going.
The dreams were the best part of taking them IMO so real you could almost touch, woke up sweating on many a night.
marco said:blueincy said:BlueBearBoots said:I've tried ecigs and found I was using it far too much, bit like a dummy. My mate used them for about 3 years and was getting out of breath going up the stairs - he's a relatively fit bloke so was concerned and sought medical opinion. The consultant told him that although ecigs contained none of the nasty toxins that real cigs do they obviously contained nicotine and people tended to use them more than real cigs, sucking on them all the time. The increased amounts of nicotine he was having were causing his arteries to clog up, he's only in his 40's. He jacked in the ecigs and went back to real ones but cutting down slowly and hopefully will give up. Within a month of stopping the ecigs his shortness of breath had gone.
How does every one else use their ecigs? Just like. Few drags an hour or more or otherwise?
Tell him about these Tablets. Two and a half years later I still dont Smoke, so they do work.
The reason I gave up was because I was also out of breath going up stairs through Smoking that and being a fat c**t, still a bit portly but can do the stairs in 2.5 seconds without gasping for breath.
http://www.patient.co.uk/health/varenicline-champixr
not the old champix, well what a drug and it does exactly as it says on the tin, i went on these in the states under a sister brand name, you carry on smoking as normal and on the third or fourth day you will puke your guts up with the stench of fags, then you stop smoking with no withdraw symptoms at all ''but and their always is a but'' the night dreams were out of this world dreams that would put Spielberg to shame not a bad thing if you have a good one but i had to stop taking them in case i had a bad one, they were so real, if your thinking about this drug just google champix dreams, i would seriously advise NOT to take this drug
I appreciate all that, I just think it's a fair compromise to ban their use indoors.gazbaz said:Dubai Blue said:Given the latter, I'd say it's fair enough to err on the side of caution and ban their use indoors until it can be categorically proven that there is no long-term risk to other people. I smoke and would love to have the option of using these, but unfortunately they're banned completely over here.Sad Pie said:There is NO evidence these things are harmful. But then again it can't be proved they're not harmful either.
I think the point SadPie is making is that it is impossible to prove a negative, so there will never be 'proof' that e cigs present no risk. It then is just a case of risk, so is an e cig more or less harmful than a real cigarette ? Given the known carcinogens and other toxic substances proven to be present in tobacco smoke, I would think its a no brainer, but what do I know compared to the World health organisation.
-nibz- said:marco said:blueincy said:Tell him about these Tablets. Two and a half years later I still dont Smoke, so they do work.
The reason I gave up was because I was also out of breath going up stairs through Smoking that and being a fat c**t, still a bit portly but can do the stairs in 2.5 seconds without gasping for breath.
http://www.patient.co.uk/health/varenicline-champixr
not the old champix, well what a drug and it does exactly as it says on the tin, i went on these in the states under a sister brand name, you carry on smoking as normal and on the third or fourth day you will puke your guts up with the stench of fags, then you stop smoking with no withdraw symptoms at all ''but and their always is a but'' the night dreams were out of this world dreams that would put Spielberg to shame not a bad thing if you have a good one but i had to stop taking them in case i had a bad one, they were so real, if your thinking about this drug just google champix dreams, i would seriously advise NOT to take this drug
Right, I'm convinced. Where can I get said drug?
Mike D said:A smoker almost had his leg ripped off after his electronic cigarette blew up and left him with shocking injuries.
David Aspinall was left fighting for his life after the e-cigarette he was smoking overheated and exploded, causing his limbs to be sprayed with metal.
The explosion, which left him with injuries likened by medics to bullet wounds, also caused fire to break out in his Wigan flat.
Ex-decorator David, 48, was forced to stagger to a neighbour's home for help after the explosion left him bleeding heavily from the horrific wounds.
He lost almost a litre of blood in the accident and was forced to spend nine days in hospital and now faces three years of skin grafts to repair his leg.
Speaking of the moment the e-cigarette exploded, David said: "It glowed and burned in my hand. I dropped it and it exploded.
"It could have blown my head off. I thought I’d lose a leg. I’m just glad I’m alive.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/smoker-left-shocking-injuries-after-4435139
EastStandLower said:Same here Ian, I've been on Ecigs for over two years, my lung capacity is back to normal, my dreadful cough has gone .IanBishopsHaircut said:Mike D said:Come on that's just taking things a bit far nobody knows what damage they do and its just plain ignorance to pretend they have medical benefits .
Before ecigs I was inhaling cancerous smoke into my lungs and had a cough like I was at deaths door
Now, after two years on ecigs according to my doctor I have lungs akin to me never having smoked at all
I'd say that was a 'medical benefit' wouldn't you?
Cigarettes kill