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paulchapo

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I was thinking about this topic after we beat Villa to win the league. Obviously Villa were timewasting all game and even more so once they were ahead. Then once we were in front we didn't want the extra time they had wasted. So by them wasting time it could have helped Villa, which doesn't seem very fair. Luckily Oliver blew up early. In future there should be two timekeepers, one for each team. If the team wasting time all game then suddenly find themselves losing, they should only get the time added on the opposition have wasted, not their own.
 
Ball in play would be better, although I think it would disadvantage us the way things are ATM

We already have one of the highest time in play figures of any team, which I feel is an advantage.
 
We should consider reducing the play to 40 minutes each way and timing it like they do in rugby, including letting play carry on until the ball is out of play. Also, give the timing to an off-pitch official, so the ref doesn’t need a watch apart from to alert him or her to a goal.
 
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card and sending off no messing about...and any commentator saying "we don't want to spoil the competition by soft red cards should be vilified on twatter for condoning cheating...and as for all this won a free kick bollox...last nights ref England V Germany got it spot on no free kicks for a touch in the back
 
Have time limits for corners, goal kicks, free kicks, corners and throw ins to be taken unless delayed by the ref.

E.g. 24 seconds for a goal kick maximum.
 
Quite a few teams waste time against City, Southampton included, and the Saints also developed this tactical break cheating between 60-70 minutes in games last season.

www.thesun.co.uk

Is this the secret tactic that Southampton use between 60 and 70 mins?

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Prestwich_Blue said:
I've got a better idea. Definitely tot up time wasting by each time then, if one team is losing, reduce normal time by the amount of wasted time. So if Villa wasted 5 minutes in that last game, call time at 85 minutes.
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If I am understanding that correctly would fans only get 85 minutes of football?. Seems like the supporters would be the losers.
 
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franksinatra said:
If I am understanding that correctly would fans not only get 85 minutes of football?. Seems like the supporters would be the losers.
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Recent reports suggest that the ball is in play for less than 60% of most games, often much less. Watching non-action is usually boring, unless there is a chance that a VAR might change the ref’s decision in our favour, for example, but I prefer the way Rugby times the live game, no opportunity for time-wasting, clock is stopped for injuries, subs and TMS, makes a lot of sense to me. This has to be a Fifa decision though, so no chance of logic being applied.
 
I honestly think if refs enforced the six second rule on keepers straight away that would send a message to the time waisting team. Also introduce a time limit on the time the ball has to be back in play at goal kicks and corners. A bit like tennis where they have a time limit from the end of a point to a serve. If say the throw time goes over the other team get the throw in.
 
I've often thought one of the best rules in rugby league is having an independent time keeper. Stopping the clock seems a far better way of ensuring fans see more game time. To run down time has become - as Real showed - a dark art and perhaps this would stop that. Also the time some subs take to get off the pitch is open to interpretation - we've had games with five subs in the 2nd half and only 2 mins extra added. Surely the refs have enough on their plate without dealing with time wasting...
 
I generally feel like it's part of the game now, and we've put it to use ourselves in key moments of the season (and I wish we'd done a better job of it in the CL semi final).

That said, I totally agree an early warning followed by a booking would sort this out. My main pet peeve is the goalkeeper inspecting the ball, spending 10 seconds placing it, having the defenders come short, sending them long, replacing the ball, taking 10 seconds to do a run up, and then kicking it out of play is just about the most boring thing to watch in football. I am level with the keeper in the standing area, so it's the main thing I see for the first half of every game.
 
There was a proposal in front of the IFAB maybe four or five years ago where they were considering trialling a stop clock. I think they were toying with either 30 or 35 minutes per half.

Never heard it mentioned again though, so can only assume it got thrown out.

No idea why. Can see no downside personally. You’d still get teams trying to slow the game down to shift momentum etc. But it would kill actual time wasting at a stroke.
 
Bournemouth Blue said:
Recent reports suggest that the ball is in play for less than 60% of most games, often much less. Watching non-action is usually boring, unless there is a chance that a VAR might change the ref’e decision in our favour, for example, but I prefer the way Rugby times the live game, no opportunity for time-wasting, clock is stopped for injuries, subs and TMS, makes a lot of sense to me.
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Yes I have read something similar myself and agree with the comments about following Rugby’s lead it would also allow the allocation of time to be taken out of the referees hands

Anything to remove the playacting, players dragging their feet to retreive/kick the ball. So frustrating as a fan.
 
I understand that some broadcasters objected to stopping the clock as it reduces the amount of time they have for adverts between programmes, resulting in reduced revenue. It also causes issues with program scheduling.
Not right but its all about the money since the advent of the prem.
 
talkativesprout said:
card and sending off no messing about...and any commentator saying "we don't want to spoil the competition by soft red cards should be vilified on twatter for condoning cheating...and as for all this won a free kick bollox...last nights ref England V Germany got it spot on no free kicks for a touch in the back
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This type of stuff does my head in, particularly with fouls. The same old shite gets rolled out all the time when a foul happens early on, that if it happened later in the match it would have been a card.
Same as holding in the box during corners. It was going to be clamped down on yet it continues.
 
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