Tino Livramento

[Zenmanc]

We do need a fullback however...everyone knows it

Whoever we go for we are probably going to have to pay over the odds/city tax whatever you want to call it.

Whether its Livramento or someone else not having a right back is not a great

It's frustrating but at the same time refreshing that we don't appear to make super public most of our dealings .. I'm guessing there are multiple simultaneous cogs in motion to address RB and i wouldn't be surprised if one day soon a name from nowhere is uttered as imminent.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

1. It's not your/their money
2. Man City has more than enough money to pay that
3. We are getting outspent by our rivals left, right and center..
4. In case you forgot, we paid 100mil for Grealish!
5. Livramento is world class, young and English (which counts for the English quota that we currently must increase)
6. We desperately need a world class right back now, which is exactly what Livramento is
7. By buying him, any chance of Isak to Liverpool (our rivals) would fall apart

The description " world class " is used so cheaply and Livramento has achieved nothing to-date to justify that description imho.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

5. Livramento is world class, young and English (which counts for the English quota that we currently must increase)
6. We desperately need a world class right back now, which is exactly what Livramento is
7. By buying him, any chance of Isak to Liverpool (our rivals) would fall apart

So world class that he is a severe downgrade over Matteus Nunes.

 

[better dead than red]

Agreed, although if he had a foreign sounding surname he would be rated even higher

Livramento? Oh right, from the long established Livramentos in the East Midlands. ;)

 

[TheBlueCat]

1. It's not your/their money
2. Man City has more than enough money to pay that
3. We are getting outspent by our rivals left, right and center..
4. In case you forgot, we paid 100mil for Grealish!
5. Livramento is world class, young and English (which counts for the English quota that we currently must increase)
6. We desperately need a world class right back now, which is exactly what Livramento is
7. By buying him, any chance of Isak to Liverpool (our rivals) would fall apart

I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
Livramento is nowhere near World Class! He’s not a bad player, but World Class? He’s not even an established international.
Buying him may have no impact on Liverpool buying Isak (I have no interest in that anyway, I’m only interested in City).

 

[TheBlueCat]

So world class that he is a severe downgrade over Matteus Nunes.

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Is this graphic supposed to prove Nunes is the better full back?
Where are the stats re his constant fuck ups? I’d list a few but I could be here all afternoon. I’ll agree he did improve, but not to premiership level. We still need a rb in my opinion. I think the club want one too, it’s just an availability issue at the moment.

 

[KingGeorge]

1. It's not your/their money
2. Man City has more than enough money to pay that
3. We are getting outspent by our rivals left, right and center..
4. In case you forgot, we paid 100mil for Grealish!
5. Livramento is world class, young and English (which counts for the English quota that we currently must increase)
6. We desperately need a world class right back now, which is exactly what Livramento is
7. By buying him, any chance of Isak to Liverpool (our rivals) would fall apart

Maybe just Maybe Livramento doesn't want to come here. Maybe he is happy at Newcastle. Just because we have money to spend and a need doesn't mean there is current target that can meet that need.

 

[bluemc]

1. It's not your/their money
2. Man City has more than enough money to pay that
3. We are getting outspent by our rivals left, right and center..
4. In case you forgot, we paid 100mil for Grealish!
5. Livramento is world class, young and English (which counts for the English quota that we currently must increase)
6. We desperately need a world class right back now, which is exactly what Livramento is
7. By buying him, any chance of Isak to Liverpool (our rivals) would fall apart

You've said here, twice, that Livramento is world class. Do you genuinely believe that? Based on what criteria is he world class?

 

[bluemc]

The description " world class " is used so cheaply and Livramento has achieved nothing to-date to justify that description imho.

Makes a change from "generational talent" though.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

Is this graphic supposed to prove Nunes is the better full back?
Where are the stats re his constant fuck ups? I’d list a few but I could be here all afternoon. I’ll agree he did improve, but not to premiership level. We still need a rb in my opinion. I think the club want one too, it’s just an availability issue at the moment.

You want an offensive full back.. it'll come with trade offs..

Zinny.. cost us CL final.

Cancelo.. cost us CL semi final vs Real and a couple of other spectulacular fuck up.. like vs Liverpool.

But I have to say at least you're consistent..









We've basically traded a defensive right back in Walker for a defensive left back in Ait Nouri.. and Zinny/ Cancelo's production on the left for Nunes's production on the right.

 

[TheBlueCat]

You want an offensive full back.. it'll come with trade offs..

Zinny.. cost us CL final.

Cancelo.. cost us CL semi final vs Real and a couple of other spectulacular fuck up.. like vs Liverpool.

But I have to say at least you're consistent..

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We've basically traded a defensive right back in Walker for a defensive left back in Ait Nouri.. and Zinny/ Cancelo's production on the left for Nunes's production on the right.

You failed to answer my question so I’ll assume you can’t.
Thanks for acknowledging my consistency. I would point out that both players you highlighted were equally inept at defending and have flopped massively since leaving City because they are shit defenders. I will hazard a guess Nunes will go the same way.
Thanks for making my point for me :)

 

[Nightmare Walking]

You want an offensive full back.. it'll come with trade offs..

Zinny.. cost us CL final.

Cancelo.. cost us CL semi final vs Real and a couple of other spectulacular fuck up.. like vs Liverpool.

But I have to say at least you're consistent..

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We've basically traded a defensive right back in Walker for a defensive left back in Ait Nouri.. and Zinny/ Cancelo's production on the left for Nunes's production on the right.

I would not call Ait Nouri defensive, mate.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

You failed to answer my question so I’ll assume you can’t.
Thanks for acknowledging my consistency. I would point out that both players you highlighted were equally inept at defending and have flopped massively since leaving City because they are shit defenders. I will hazard a guess Nunes will go the same way.
Thanks for making my point for me :)

I didn't fail to answer your question.. you didn't read what I said..

Pep's made the calculation that Nunes fuck ups are nothing compared to his offensive production. That's why he's still playing.

If he was just horrible, he'd be dropped like Kalvin.

And btw.. Foden is the golden boy but he's been at City for 8 seasons and still has not had 1 single 10 assist season. Nunes did it in his second season.. when the assists were not coming from KDB/ Gundo/ Rodri. It's obvious there's something in there Pep feels he can use to the advantage of the team!

 

[TheBlueCat]

I didn't fail to answer your question.. you didn't read what I said..

Pep's made the calculation that Nunes fuck ups are nothing compared to his offensive production. That's why he's still playing.

If he was just horrible, he'd be dropped like Kalvin.

And btw.. Foden is the golden boy but he's been at City for 8 seasons and still has not had 1 single 10 assist season. Nunes did it in his second season.. when the assists were not coming from KDB/ Gundo/ Rodri. It's obvious there's something in there Pep feels he can use to the advantage of the team!

I read what you said. You did not answer. You are now trying to justify what you said by apparently knowing Peps inner thoughts.
I have no idea why you mention Foden? More smoke and mirrors?
Some people here (I wouldn’t presume to be one of them) make good analytical points.
You don’t.
Have a nice evening..

 

[remember arthur mann]

Newcastle being ripped apart.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

I read what you said. You did not answer. You are now trying to justify what you said by apparently knowing Peps inner thoughts.
I have no idea why you mention Foden? More smoke and mirrors?
Some people here (I wouldn’t presume to be one of them) make good analytical points.
You don’t.
Have a nice evening..

So by your logic.. Pep should never play Nunes, Cancelo or Zinchenko since they're terrible!

I won't stop you from playing the clueless idiot!

But in Pep I trust!

I may not know Pep's inner thoughts but after having him be the manager for 9 years.. I think I can deduce enough that if someone doesn't follow his instructions or is just shit.. they do NOT play for Pep!

 

[Vester]

We've basically traded a defensive right back in Walker for a defensive left back in Ait Nouri.. and Zinny/ Cancelo's production on the left for Nunes's production on the right.

Ait-Nouri is an exiting signing but he is certainly not "defensive left back".

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

Ait-Nouri is an exiting signing but he is certainly not "defensive left back".

Interesting..

So say we come up against Salah or Saka or Palmer..

Does Ake play Left Back for those games?

Interesting times ahead.. I would have thought Ait-Nouri would be trusted to handle them!

 

[TheBlueCat]

Nice..by your logic.. Pep should never play Nunes, Cancelo or Zinchenko since they're terrible!

I won't stop you from playing the clueless idiot!

But in Pep I trust!

I tried to be pleasant.
I’m not surprised you have resorted to juvenile insults.
Again you presume to know other people’s thoughts.
Another dick head on ignore..
I doubt people have stopped laughing at you yet. Fuck off back to your bedroom.. Prick :)

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

I tried to be pleasant.
I’m not surprised you have resorted to juvenile insults.
Again you presume to know other people’s thoughts.
Another dick head on ignore..
I doubt people have stopped laughing at you yet. Fuck off back to your bedroom.. Prick :)

There's nothing pleasant about your constant negativity. And I don't like constant negativity.. I like positivity.

I see positive in Nunes as he can provide assists to our forwards where others can't or didn't manage to last season even though they were given chances.

Oh and thanks for putting me on ignore.. I won't miss anyone who is negative towards City players non stop.

Most of us don't want this forum to become twitter like constant negativity..