Today's shooting in America thread

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Really. Got a source for that?
Starter for 10…

223/5.56mm NATO:
The AR-15 is nominally chambered in .223/5.56mm NATO, but many variants have been produced in different calibers such as .22-LR, 7.62×39mm, 9×19mm Parabellum and shotgun calibers.
 
Not insulting anyone.

It’s important that basic terminology, and the actual reasons so many guns are virtually impossible to ban, are understood. Clearly they’re not!

There is the action of the gun and the accessories that change a handgun into the larger firearms that people seem to have greater heartburn over.

Until there are common frames of reference, a discussion of the convoluted laws and technicalities is meaningless.

For instance, what is an assault rifle? Ask 10 people get 11 emotional responses!
"Assault" rifles do not belong in the hands of civilians. They certainly aren't personal defence weapons.
 
Seeing as you’ve never fired it in anger never mind at an individual I wouldn’t be so cocksure that you’d be able to do it. In fact I’d be more worried if the situation arose if you injuring a family member. You just don’t know how you’ll react in a situation you’ve never come across before.
Hopefully, we will never have to find out, but I think you’d be on the wrong side of history if push came to shove.

If it’s me or him…or any member of my family and him…it’s him!

I don’t mean to sound overly dramatic, but I’ve trained, I’ve simulated and I’ve practiced for well over a decade.

In a stress/range setting, I can put two in the chest and one in the head in a couple of seconds. Only 1 of those needs to hit the target in a household setting to put anyone down, or make them crawl away in deep regret! I know that sounds crazy to some of you, and braggadocio to others, but it’s a fact based on t
years of training and practice. I’m not a hillbilly or a gun nut, but I am serious about gun safety and ability to perform.
 
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"Assault" rifles do not belong in the hands of civilians. They certainly aren't personal defence weapons.
Never said otherwise.

But, while they are, who is going to take them away and how?

In that case, what’s your answer to the conundrum, and what makes a RIFLE and “assault” rifle? The plastic bits that make it look cool?? You can 3D print most of those!
 
Hopefully, we will never have to find out, but I think you’d be on the wrong side of history if push came to shove.

If it’s me or him…or any member of my family and him…it’s him!

I don’t mean to sound overly dramatic, but I’ve trained, I’ve simulated and I’ve practiced for well over a decade.

In a stress/range setting, I can put two in the chest and one in the head in a couple of seconds. Only 1 of those needs to hit the target in a household setting to put anyone down, or make them crawl away in deep regret! I know that sounds crazy to some of you, and braggadocio to others, but it’s a fact based on tears of training and practice. I’m not a hillbilly or a gun nut, but I am serious about gun safety and ability.
Braggadocio........great word. I'm having that.
 
Never said otherwise.

But, while they are, who is going to take them away and how?

In that case, what’s your answer to the conundrum, and what makes a RIFLE and “assault” rifle? The plastic bits that make it look cool?? You can 3D print most of those!
I would say any semi-automatic rifle (which can be converted to fully automatic, or pseudo automatic relatively easily) can be classed as an assault rifle.

Just ban the sale of new ones and have a 5 year amnesty to hand them in. After that $1000 fine for the first year, then $10000 fine/6 months in prison after that.
 
Never said otherwise.

But, while they are, who is going to take them away and how?

In that case, what’s your answer to the conundrum, and what makes a RIFLE and “assault” rifle? The plastic bits that make it look cool?? You can 3D print most of those!
Mate this is what I mean. You should be the LEADER here in calling for reform. Instead you’re defending the “Well, there’s nothing we can do now; Pandora’s box is open” line.

You know more about these things then all of us combined.

Voting blue is not enough. It’s YOUR (meaning responsible gun owners’) responsibility to lead on regulation and control here. And if you don’t, I don’t think you have a single right to complain if those who know less try to do it for you in ways you don’t like.

Where is the anti-NRA responsible gun owners lobby, for starters?
 
Mate this is what I mean. You should be the LEADER here in calling for reform. Instead you’re defending the “Well, there’s nothing we can do now; Pandora’s box is open” line.

You know more about these things then all of us combined.

Voting blue is not enough. It’s YOUR (meaning responsible gun owners’) responsibility to lead on regulation and control here. And if you don’t, I don’t think you have a single right to complain if those who know less try to do it for you in ways you don’t like.

Where is the anti-NRA responsible gun owners lobby, for starters?
In what ways will I not like gun regulation?

What EXACTLY do you want from me?

As a responsible dog owner, am I supposed to be marching to ban dangerous animals?

As a car owner, am I to lead the fight for safer cars…or just ban petroleum powered vehicles? I have one electric and have a Model Y on order. But, am I doing enough? Should I organize?

I’m one of MILLIONS of legal, responsible gun owners and I want violent offenders jailed for a loooong time. That’s the law now, but who the fuck follows it???
I would say any semi-automatic rifle (which can be converted to fully automatic, or pseudo automatic relatively easily) can be classed as an assault rifle.

Just ban the sale of new ones and have a 5 year amnesty to hand them in. After that $1000 fine for the first year, then $10000 fine/6 months in prison after that.
So, a FEDERAL LAW then, that covers everyone in every state?

HAHA! There are not enough police, DAs, attorneys, court rooms or prisons to enforce that law. And, as the saying goes, you make law-abiding citizens exercising their Constitutional Rights into criminals.

The REAL problem is that criminals who commit crimes with guns are not punished nearly strongly enough to deter people who use them.
 

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