Today's shooting in America thread

"Some innocents get hurt in the process". Do you realise how callous you sound right now? We're talking about children going to school to get an education and never coming home. And for what? So some can keep a gun collection and pop off a few rounds on a line of beer bottles whenever they get bored? A parent shouldn't have to live in perpetual fear of their child being gunned down in a classroom.

But it's not issue, because they're just innocents hurt in the process.
It doesn't affect Idaho as he doesn't have kids in school. So, we'll done him.
Seems the world outside the US cares more for the welfare of their children than they do.
 
Because an alarming number of us use them to murder people?
We don't shoot school kids, yet we have gun ownership.

It's not the ownership that is the issue, regulation and control is. There basically isn't any in the US, it's a free for all with no accountability.

It's hard for me to understand why so little effort is put into it, when I myself find simple control and regulation acceptable to work with.
 
I've lived a long time in both England and U.S., and for a little while in N.Z. The U.S. is where I've made the best life I can and sadly it's also the sickest of the three. And the reason I feel it's the sickest is because people shoot other people so bloody often. Simple but true.
 
I've lived a long time in both England and U.S., and for a little while in N.Z. The U.S. is where I've made the best life I can and sadly it's also the sickest of the three. And the reason I feel it's the sickest is because people shoot each other so bloody often. Simple but true.
You'd rather be back in Chav ville ? , looking at anything from the UK gets me anxious as fuck
 
As is always the case, any chance of a sensible discussion gets lost in comments like “Chimps with guns” and a lack of understanding of America’s birth and the reason for 2A.

If someone has a magic wand and could “magic away” the roughly 350 MILLION guns in the USA. I’d be all for it. Alas…

If somebody could stop the mentally and criminally insane getting their hands on guns. see above.

However, the biggest problem is that The Constitution has a method for changing, or even removing, 2A, but that mechanism doesn’t stand a chance in todays politically supercharged America. ZERO!

You can nibble at the edges, but that would only create more illegality, and guess who doesn’t care about that? Yes, the criminals.

Lastly, mental health is a crisis in America. People like to talk like America is a COUNTRY of rugged individualists. IT AIN’T! America is a country where far too many people live on the ragged edge, and those of you who have ventured outside the megapolises have surely seen it. Watch an episode of Justified or Yellowstone and you see the hinterlands. Watch almost anything filmed outside a large urban area and you see that America, for all its claims of an advanced society, is more 1923 than 2023 in many places.

Sure, there are rigged pockets of life out west, but Nashville, TN? Not a chance…even though many people there still feel a kinship with the rebel South.

“Get rid of all the guns!” Sounds so easy, especially in countries where when the police and pols say it, the masses hop to it. But, that’s not America and never has been.

The level of distrust in authority is a pandemic born of corruption, and was hard earned. Turning that shop around, yo the point of rescinding 2A is simply unimaginable, regardless of how many grieving mothers we get to watch on TV from outside their child’s supposed safe space for education.

We are fucked and it’s not changing anytime soon.
 
What’s the deal with the youngest one not holding a gun? Is he considered too young?

Visited Tennessee in 2018 with my mate. Did Memphis (shithole), Nashville (completely loved) Chattanooga (loved) and the Jack Daniels distillery (which was very interesting). Loved the place, loved the people we met, but there is a collective insanity in that country where all reason has been abandoned (or never even existed) when it comes to guns. I don’t think there’s any solution, the genie is too far out of the bottle, and all we can do as a society is watch and learn, and make sure we don’t go down the same rabbit hole.

Because once you do, there‘s no turning back.
 
Visited Tennessee in 2018 with my mate. Did Memphis (shithole), Nashville (completely loved) Chattanooga (loved) and the Jack Daniels distillery (which was very interesting). Loved the place, loved the people we met, but there is a collective insanity in that country where all reason has been abandoned (or never even existed) when it comes to guns. I don’t think there’s any solution, the genie is too far out of the bottle, and all we can do as a society is watch and learn, and make sure we don’t go down the same rabbit hole.

Because once you do, there‘s no turning back.
Got it in one…even your descriptions of the cities!
 

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