Today's shooting in America thread

Bigga said:
Clearly it would seem that some people don't understand the issue.

If you don't make bad laws better by making more people eligible then the strategy is pretty simple and would avoid the off key post if one had read it:

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Pretty simple.

Decades of doing nothing about loose laws have allowed a demographic to, literally, get away with murder. So, up until laws are re-written (or CRT is addressed) then escalation is always coming.

US society needs rebalancing by any means necessary.
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What a load of total balls.
 
idahoblues said:
I would like to say to all the morally outraged who would no longer consider visiting, you’ll be sorely missed
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TBH I dont see the point of this ongoing thread. Is it an endemic attitude of Brits to criticize American society because Brits feel some sort of superiority through gun ownership being not generally allowed in the UK ?
American laws, constitution and bill of rights has nothing to do with UK citizens, any more than Britain having a Royal family has nothing to do with Americans. Our histories are entirely different.
America is America, how they run their country is their business, Ive lived there and visited many times since and literally never felt threatened once, but I have felt uneasy and vulnerable at times on some visits to Manchester. (sad to say).
Im a British and Australian citizen and I feel no compunction to talk about or feel smug about how things are done in America. Its their country, who are we to tell them how to run it and what they should be doing.
 
Bill Walker said:
TBH I dont see the point of this ongoing thread. Is it an endemic attitude of Brits to criticize American society because Brits feel some sort of superiority through gun ownership being not generally allowed in the UK ?
American laws, constitution and bill of rights has nothing to do with UK citizens, any more than Britain having a Royal family has nothing to do with Americans. Our histories are entirely different.
America is America, how they run their country is their business, Ive lived there and visited many times since and literally never felt threatened once, but I have felt uneasy and vulnerable at times on some visits to Manchester. (sad to say).
Im a British and Australian citizen and I feel no compunction to talk about or feel smug about how things are done in America. Its their country, who are we to tell them how to run it and what they should be doing.
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Now now, don’t upset the Little Englanders, they’re right, you’re wrong
 
Bill Walker said:
TBH I dont see the point of this ongoing thread. Is it an endemic attitude of Brits to criticize American society because Brits feel some sort of superiority through gun ownership being not generally allowed in the UK ?
American laws, constitution and bill of rights has nothing to do with UK citizens, any more than Britain having a Royal family has nothing to do with Americans. Our histories are entirely different.
America is America, how they run their country is their business, Ive lived there and visited many times since and literally never felt threatened once, but I have felt uneasy and vulnerable at times on some visits to Manchester. (sad to say).
Im a British and Australian citizen and I feel no compunction to talk about or feel smug about how things are done in America. Its their country, who are we to tell them how to run it and what they should be doing.
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That argument would be fair enough, but there is just the trouble of all those military bases around the globe and American companies owning half of global corporate wealth.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
That argument would be fair enough, but there is just the trouble of all those military bases around the globe and American companies owning half of global corporate wealth.
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Yeah, yeah . . . you didn't hear us bitching about it when the BE had both those things.

Bloody hell, only today another one of your ex-colonies just threw off the yoke of its nonagenarian oppressor! Only 14 more to go. :)
 
Bill Walker said:
TBH I dont see the point of this ongoing thread. Is it an endemic attitude of Brits to criticize American society because Brits feel some sort of superiority through gun ownership being not generally allowed in the UK ?
American laws, constitution and bill of rights has nothing to do with UK citizens, any more than Britain having a Royal family has nothing to do with Americans. Our histories are entirely different.
America is America, how they run their country is their business, Ive lived there and visited many times since and literally never felt threatened once, but I have felt uneasy and vulnerable at times on some visits to Manchester. (sad to say).
Im a British and Australian citizen and I feel no compunction to talk about or feel smug about how things are done in America. Its their country, who are we to tell them how to run it and what they should be doing.
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I have to agree to an extent. I've visited the States a few times when I worked on the ships and had a great time. On the whole the Yanks loved us and were very friendly. The only time there was a bit of an uneasy time was when we docked in some one horse town called Donaldsonville on the Mississippi River. Some young lads got a bit lippy in a bar but backed down when we fronted them up. We heard one say something about going for his gun but a few older locals told him to pack it in. They left but I must admit I kept one eye on the door just incase

I'm wary now most places at night in the UK, particularly bus and tram stops on my own as they seem to be frequented by mobs of youths and nutters. Maybe I'm just getting old. I grew up in Hulme and Benchill and can still scrap but there are no scruples these days and plenty carry knives. I'm glad guns aren't readily available here because I think I'd be in prison or dead now. A few times when younger and in scrapes and pissed it would have been too tempting to grab the gun and sort people out.

As others have said in the state's it's their culture and I don't see it changing anytime soon.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Yeah, yeah . . . you didn't hear us bitching about it when the BE had both those things.

Bloody hell, only today another one of your ex-colonies just threw off the yoke of its nonagenarian oppressor! Only 14 more to go. :)
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Really? One of the reasons we don't have that anymore is because of pressure from the USA.

"1776 will commence again... "
 
Fode N The Hole said:
That argument would be fair enough, but there is just the trouble of all those military bases around the globe and American companies owning half of global corporate wealth.
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We certainly welcome US bases here in Oz, cant rely on Boris and co to help us should China or some other country try to invade.
 
Bill Walker said:
We certainly welcome US bases here in Oz, cant rely on Boris and co to help us should China or some other country try to invade.
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Can't you arm the kangaroos?

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Fode N The Hole said:
Go make one if you want maybe call it chav culture and knives.
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I have no interest in doing that, cant see the point tbh. I dont live there, its got balls all to do with me.
I like where I live, Ive got no reason to complain about other countries, hence my lack of understanding of this thread.
 
Bill Walker said:
I have no interest in doing that, cant see the point tbh. I dont live there, its got balls all to do with me.
I like where I live, Ive got no reason to complain about other countries, hence my lack of understanding of this thread.
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Contact a moderator and ask if it can be removed?

Maybe because it makes news in other countries.

Do you feel the same way about female genital mutilation?
 
Fode N The Hole said:
Contact a moderator and ask if it can be removed?



Do you feel the same way about female genital mutilation?
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Mods wont remove it, MES seems to empathise with the thread.

I havent seen any ongoing threads about genital mutilation to complain about and I dont understand your question. You mean, do I think we should gloat about it only happening in the USA or some other country and not the one we live in ?
 
Bill Walker said:
Mods wont remove it, MES seems to empathise with the thread.

I havent seen any ongoing threads about genital mutilation to complain about and I dont understand your question. You mean, do I think we should gloat about it only happening in the USA or some other country and not the one we live in ?
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No I mean you don't have a single concern for how unjust laws affect people in countries around the world.

Anti-lgbt laws are alright?

This thread isn't just gloating is it?

I think it took that direction because of the frequency that mass shootings happen and the collective shoulder shrugging that happens in response.

No meaningful action to stop kindergartens being shot up like the O. K. Corral.
 
Bill Walker said:
TBH I dont see the point of this ongoing thread. Is it an endemic attitude of Brits to criticize American society because Brits feel some sort of superiority through gun ownership being not generally allowed in the UK ?
American laws, constitution and bill of rights has nothing to do with UK citizens, any more than Britain having a Royal family has nothing to do with Americans. Our histories are entirely different.
America is America, how they run their country is their business,
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This is a ridiculously comment on several levels, not least the idea that the forum shouldn't have threads on non-British topics.

Perhaps most ridiculous though is the idea that it's a British trait to criticise or talk about how fucked up America is. In my experience it's one of the few topics that united citizens of every country on the planet.
 
Bill Walker said:
TBH I dont see the point of this ongoing thread.
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It was started because at that time there were a lot of shootings, hence a lot of separate threads all discussing the same issue about gun laws in the US.
At one point there were 4 or 5 different threads on different shootings all asking the same questions and discussions.
The easy solution was to create one thread for the ongoing topic.
 
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