Tony Blair

[baildon blue]

At least Tony Blair left on his terms not like Maggie.Worst mistake Blair made was sucking up to that weasel George Bush.We should never gone to war with the United States over Iraq.

 

[TCIB]

Bush's puppet who was fond of extreme massaging of facts and figures and someone i dislike a lot and his wife i think i hate her.

He was the instigator of the modern spin we see that has clouded any transparency we once had.
That has done more than anything else i think to make people feel detached from politics.

 

[Southbanken]

Maybe so, GDM, but that doesn't mean he was wrong in law. I dont question that the legality of the war can be debated or that it is reasonable to regard the war as immoral. My point is that the highly dubious contention that the war was illegal seems to have been repeated so many times that it is now accepted as received wisdom.

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_the_Iraq_War" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_the_Iraq_War</a>

Basically, my understanding is that we (the UK and US) went to war without the required persmission (or resolution) from the UN. The UN would not give it to us because Iraq had not done anything (i.e. accted as an aggresor like they did in GW1) which merited permission to invade.

Blair and Bush claim it was legal because of resolutions that still had not been withdrawn after GW1, which for me is tenuous and getting around the law on a technicality.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Talk about desperate...

Does anyone who has a left wing bone in their body consider Blair to be left wing?

I doubt as many people will be happy, he generally killed Iraqi children, Thatcher....well I can't say shit because I'd be banned but yeah...Thatcher.

 

[BlueTG]

Is Blair going to receive a ceremonial burial as well?

Why, is he dead?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Is Blair going to receive a ceremonial burial as well?

Why, is he dead?

Why bother about a minor detail like that?

 

[dannybcity]

Is Blair going to receive a ceremonial burial as well?

Why, is he dead?

Didn't stop Brown planning for Thatcher's.

 

[Churchill123]

I certainly will do! - Deceitful lying bastard!

And his wife, ohhhh jesus don't get me started on her... The Human rights lawyer

Understand Tony Blair is the highest paid after dinner speaker going.. I wonder what the bloke has to say that is of any interest what so ever!

 

[Rascal]

If Thatcher was still in power at the time Saddam was kicked out of Kuwait, there would have been no Gulf 2. Because there would have been no Saddam.

If Thatcher and Reagan had both still been in power perhaps. But that was kind of my point. Blairs decision to go war on Iraq was a direct consequence of not ending the job in the first Gulf war and in 30 years time or so Iraq is a different place history may view events differently.

Good point, and very well made

Newcross my friend how the devil are you?

 

[TonyBook]

I think whatever state the country of Iraq is in at the time of Blairs passing will influence peoples thoughts.

If Iraq is still a basket case and its people are still bombing each other then he will be hated as it will have confirmed peoples worst fears, if it is a thriving peaceful growing democracy then perhaps he may be viewed differently. As on the Thatcher thread were dsscusion revolves around things that first started 30 years ago, perhaps in 30 years time when Blair is disscussed on here Iraq may well be different and the war may be judged differently.


Blairs political legacy has only that blot on it. The financial crash will always be attributed to Brown.

Ironically it was Thatcher who first mooted war with Iraq when they invaded Kuwait although Major was in charge when the 1st gulf war started. If Major had pushed for the removal of Saddam at that time Blairs reign could have been all so different

A very good commentary Rascal, but MT was consistent in the sense that the modern world should not tolerate the invasion of one sovereign country by another.

Negotiation and democratic agreement by both sides is the modern way of doing things.