mindmyp's_n_q's said:
Totally agree and apologise for the Ched links in my last few points. It is interesting that you use the term "Full consent" that to my mind opens up an even greater minefield when it comes to sexual assault and rape. I can see it from the point of view in rape where the female might agree to some heavy foreplay but refuses full sex but can you give me an example where sexual assault could occur when you have given some consent to sexual contact?
Again apologies if I am totally missing the point but red wine and bifta often get me in a thinking mood.
Let me put it simply but crudely. You can be engaged in foreplay for as long as you want, tongues fingers everything BUT if your todger goes near her and she changes her mind and says no you have to stop or it is rape. I am 90% sure there is a stated case (one that has gone through appeal etc) where they were engaged in full penetrative sex, she changed her mind half way through and told him to stop, he carried on as he was in full flow and he was convicted or rape.
No means NO.
Blokes on here seem to have a problem with a girl having a drink and how do they know what she really means, I don't understand that, If you are not sure you don't do it.
I will just add to that, if she thinks she is consenting to vaginal sex and you stick it up her bum thinking it is fun you will get done for rape.