Not having a go a you, C i L, I knew the answer when I asked the question. But it's this history thing again. Why live in today's world when you can have the rags in. And if they dont make top 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 do the rules get chaged to keep them in again? I think we all know the answer .
You’re asking two different questions - why do the media include them, and why are they in this thread.
Sky talk about the top 4 when the rags are in the top 4, the top 6 when they’re in the top 6 and even the top 7 when Moyes was in charge. That’s just a way of keeping them relevant so that thousands of armchair rags don’t lose interest. So, yes, they do change the rules to keep the rags in the club.
Even so, I genuinely think they will finish in the top 6, not least because the top 6 has finished in the top 6 in some order or other for the last 2 seasons in a row and at least five of the top six have finished in the top six every season for the last 10 years. Actually Liverpool have spent more time outside the top 6 than the rags since we joined that elite group.
The reason I think they belong in this thread is basically that the top 6 really has become an entity in itself. If you look at the final league table for the 2011-12 season, and compare it to the current table, outside the top 6 every team in that league has been relegated or promoted since bar Everton. It has become exactly the model UEFA wanted for the champions league, the same old teams always there, pulling in the viewing figures.
It’s piss funny to laugh at the rags and their fire football, but I think we have to recognise that for all that we would love it if they became spectacularly irrelevant, they aren’t likely to become a genuine mid table/relegation team any time soon. I see them more like Arsenal: capable of beating anyone when the stars align right, good for a cup win every now and then, not a real threat in terms of challenging for the title.
So whilst I would love it if they faded to nothing, I suspect they will be around for a long while to come.