Tottenham are better than us.

[rez9000]

I can't understand why anyone from another club wants to come on this forum. Seriously I can't understand as I have no interest going onto another clubs forum. I'm better served by going to newsnow, or football 365. You won't find these people coming on here when they lose, but you will hear the demented phelbs on the radio bleetting about how badly they have been treated.

An equal quesiton would be why is your forum devoting so much time to a club they have no rivalry with? Isn't that as valid a question? Look at the opening posts - the ones that accuse Bale and Lennon of taking performance-enhancing drugs. Woudn't you want to defend your club's honour if it happened to you?

-- Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:48 pm --

Can someone tell the spud that posts are not awarded points for
length of each post.

What, can't you do it yourself?<br /><br />-- Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:49 pm --<br /><br />

I am frankly astounded by the amount of vitriol on this site!

Surely a club superior to Spurs woulnd't descend to this much paranoia and arrogance.

I've been on a Liverpool site, both before and after today's match and do you know what the overriding sentiment is there? Respect, mutual respect.

It is insane for Man City to hate us this much. We beat you in a cup final nearly 30 years ago and you still harbour a grudge?

We've been beaten by Blackburn, by Man Utd, by Coventry and a number of other clubs in cup finals. There is nothing resembling the quite frankly vicious levels of poison that some City fans spout from Spurs fans towards those who have beaten us. What is it about you people?

We beat you to fourth? Yes, but that's football. We missed out on fourth ourselves a few seasons ago. On the last day of the season. We were beaten by West Ham. Do we hold West Ham responsible? No. We don't like West Ham, true, but not because of that.

Do you know how classless you appear with some of the comments on this thread and the way some City fans behave? Is that what you want? For the dislike that's already built up over the last three seasons to get even worse? I used to like Man City a lot. I used to repsect them for being a historic, long-established side with a true football tradition. And that feeling was shared by may other fans. Now, you've become one of the most unpopular clubs in the footballing world.

Ask. Ask fans of other clubs (Man U doesn't count) and ask them if they like or hate Man City, and you'll see the dislike you've generated.

Is it jealousy? Yes, to a large extent. But when confronted with jealousy, what do many City fans do? Rub it in. Give it the 'big 'un'. Do you believe that that will somehow endear you to the rest of the footballing world?

The almost automatic reaction is 'well, we don't care what the rest of the footballing world thinks about us'. Methinks the lady doth protest too much. If you really didn't care, then you wouldn't have such nasty posts about Spurs or any other club bar Man U.

Let's be clear, we aren't your rival, except in our competition for fourth. We beat you to it last year, fair and square. If you beat us to it this season, then well done. But to suggest that we're cheating is frankly beyond paranoid. Are Chelsea, three points ahead of you cheating? Are Arsenal? Are your real rival, Man U? Do you know how idiotic that sounds?

And this sense of entitlement some of you carry is absolutely insane. You believe that you should be handed the title and the achievements on a plate. Like that City fan who tatooed 'Champions League Winners 2010/2011' on hs arm. If a Chelsea fan or an Arsenal fan or even a Man U fan had done that, how derided would they be?

Having money doesn't automatically mean you'll win. Blackburn won their title not just because they outspent the opposition, but because they had a great manager in Dalglish and worked for each other and believed that they had to work to achieve. The same goes for Chelsea under Mourinho and Ancelotti. And Arsenal. As a Spurs fan do you think I like seeing them win things? But I can acknowledge that they did so by having good players a highly skilled manager, and by working hard.

That's what real winners do - they work. They don't think they can just turn up and be given a result. The attitude of many City fans is that if they lose, or don't do well, then someone has cheated them out of it, and that they shoud have had the result.

You're money alone won't buy you the title. You need the right attitude, on and off the pitch.

I think this is the same disease that spread at Chelsea when Abramovich first arrived. The established fans remained the same, but they were then inundated with a bunch of plastic fans with no respect for football's traditions or respect for the idea of healthy competition.

There are a load of Chelsea fans with no class, no sense of tradition, no respect for the concept of football. Banter has turned into poison. Competition has turned into a verbal violence that undermines the spirit of sport.

Is that what you want for Man City? Is that the way you want to be viewed by other fans? Hateful, poisonous, harbouring a grudge for slights that only exist in your mind?

For those of you who still remember what football is about and understand that Spurs are not in anyway your rival, I salute you and wish you the best of luck. For those of you with a sense of entitlement and an idea that winning is more important than the game, then I hope Man City never win anything - because you (not the club, you the plastic fans) don't deserve it.

Don't talk bollocks, i've been on plenty of Spurs forums in the past and recently and have seen the bollocks and hatred writted by you lot as it is the same on every forum.

Fuck em all including you lot most of all.

Really? Any links or quotes to back it up?

 

[bluemanc]

This fuckers got you lot beat i'm afraid,i'd give you a lift with him but i need a brew.

Yeah, I don't think language like that will do much of a job except to reinforce my point.

The fucker bit wasn't meant to offend or assist in doing a job, so thinking it reinforces what ever point you are making is a tad silly.
If i wanted to offend(which i don't) i would be open about it in the same way i was with the dozens that infested this site gloating when you bought Corluka off us.

 

[rez9000]

I haven't slandered anyone mate and i couldn't give a fcuk
what people say about us on their own forums.

And again, where have I accused you of slandering anyone?

And you still haven't answered my question: how can I generalise and specify at the same time?

Go and have a love in with your own then you won't have
read the criticism on here, whether it's true or not

The difference is that I'm not saying I have a problem with criticism. If anything, it's some of the posters here who seem unable to take criticism, you included.

 

[buzzer1]

Mancio, you were the one being abusive, nobody else but YOU. I'm looking forward to SWPs backs reply regarding the Vitriol, Xenophobia and ignorance comments, who could he possibly be talking about as i have heard none of the above, maybe a bit of ignorance depending on which side you stand, but the other two, never.

He gets the same thing from everyone that doesn't agree with him, not a city fan, a Mancini fan (as he is Italian).

The ignorance you agreed with and the vitriol speaks for itself on reply after reply to Mancio.

What's funny is some blues are far happier having a go at him that at fans of other clubs that take it upon themselves to come on here and lecture us.

You still sore from when I laughed at the UFO thread when you sulked off for a bit? It was banter and nothing personal.

What the hek are you on about Mr. Bluemoon? No.1, when this guy started coming on the forum or when i discovered him i actualy defended him as some cock was skitting him oabout his grammar, i pointed out that he speaks fantastic English and did the guy that was slagging him off have any grasp of any Italian whatsoever?
No.2. You did'nt laugh at me you accused me of shutting people down with a different opinion, oh the fkin Irony.

No.3, sulked off? I had a breather as it was interupting my good vibe and energy from my Normal life away from this forum as it seems some peoples way of life, sad but true, and i'll probably do the same next May just as i give up drinking for the closed season, only to return re-energized in August. So if i was you i would drop the self importance bit that you frequently display on this forum, fancy thinking that you actualy driven someone away from an internet forum, Bwaahhh.

Right, i actualy had the nerve to suggest the Yids(is this what you meant by Xenophobia or that Mancio was the target of it?) are gonna be at it when they get there full compliment back and fit, and in response to a poster i said we was lucky to get away with all 3 oints against the toon and B.pool, oh i and that we should sign Carroll, so why the snide remarks? at no point did i have a go at Mancio and was just after an explanation to his aggression and he should stop the name calling..

 

[SWP's back]

Not on an iPhone no Rez.

Has to be pithy replies I'm sorry.

 

[1.618034]

Er... Your team's just been on MOTD but you've spent the whole time posting on here... Strange behaviour.

I watched it but then again I'm a football fan.

Great game. Liverpool were unlucky. A draw would've been a good result for Spurs but you did what you've been doing all season which is coming back into it after a shaky start.

I reiterate my answer to the OP..

Tottenham are not better than us. IMHO

 

[Marvin]

Spurs are pretty much a long ball team, with a couple of kick-and-run merchants.

They rely soley on either lumping it up to crouch for knock downs, or getting either Bale or Lennon to twat it and sprint past a full-back, to then cross it for crouch to either try and score or knock it down for someone else.

Whereas we try to control games, play possession football and try not to concede goals.

On paper you wouldnt really take one of Spurs' players over ours, hence why I wouldn't say that they are "better" than us.

One thing I would say is that Spurs are more a more effective team than us. They do seem to have more fight in them and play with more urgency than us. I think that ultimately they will get 4th over us again, because long ball football is much more effective than possession football, which could be our downfall at the end of the day... Just like it is for Arsenal in their attempts to win the league.

Spurs beat Inter Milan and have qualified from their Champions League group. They are a pleasure to watch and have some top quality players. They can go long to Crouch, but what's wrong with that? We're a bit one dimensional at times. It's good to have some variation in your game

I think City are a better team, and as the new players settle in we will get better and better.

But it makes no sense to run down Spurs. You might not like them for whatever reason, but there's no denying they are playing some great attacking football at the moment

Their weakness is their defending. I think they will continually lose games away from home, whereas we look very strong away from home at the moment (though we seem to be playing strong teams at home at the moment, and weak teams away - so that may change)

 

[SWP's back]

Buzzer, once again calm down, I was not suggesting you were responsible for all xenophobia, ignorance or vitriol to Mancio.

You do get quite agitated and if a forum ruins your good vibe then I feel bad for you. I hope to not upset you again.

 

[rez9000]

Er... Your team's just been on MOTD but you've spent the whole time posting on here... Strange behaviour.

I watched it but then again I'm a football fan.

Great game. Liverpool were unlucky. A draw would've been a good result for Spurs but you did what you've been doing all season which is coming back into it after a shaky start.

I reiterate my answer to the OP..

Tottenham are not better than us. IMHO

I Sky+'d MOTD, and watched and recorded the game. I don't think you can accuse me of being a lesser fan just because I chose to forgo a television programme.

Oh, we were lucky, were we? So what? How does that detract form the venom that has been spouted in this thread about Spurs? You can't deflect the criticism I'm making by saying that I should have been watching MOTD or that Spurs were lucky.

No-one, not one of the many who have had a pop has actually managed to justify there aberrant behaviour in this regard. Some of you, and I have massive respect for them have actually agreed with my point and I would enjoy discussing football with them, given the opportunity.

But the majority of you have refused to acknowledge that the behaviour of some Man City fans have gone way, way over the top in the hatred they've shown toward Spurs.

I tell you what, ask me if I think some Spurs fans are arrogant. Go ahead. You get a free one.

 

[brian the blue]

Spurs are pretty much a long ball team, with a couple of kick-and-run merchants.

They rely soley on either lumping it up to crouch for knock downs, or getting either Bale or Lennon to twat it and sprint past a full-back, to then cross it for crouch to either try and score or knock it down for someone else.

Whereas we try to control games, play possession football and try not to concede goals.

On paper you wouldnt really take one of Spurs' players over ours, hence why I wouldn't say that they are "better" than us.

One thing I would say is that Spurs are more a more effective team than us. They do seem to have more fight in them and play with more urgency than us. I think that ultimately they will get 4th over us again, because long ball football is much more effective than possession football, which could be our downfall at the end of the day... Just like it is for Arsenal in their attempts to win the league.

Spurs beat Inter Milan and have qualified from their Champions League group. They are a pleasure to watch and have some top quality players. They can go long to Crouch, but what's wrong with that? We're a bit one dimensional at times. It's good to have some variation in your game

I think City are a better team, and as the new players settle in we will get better and better.

But it makes no sense to run down Spurs. You might not like them for whatever reason, but there's no denying they are playing some great attacking football at the moment

Their weakness is their defending. I think they will continually lose games away from home, whereas we look very strong away from home at the moment (though we seem to be playing strong teams at home at the moment, and weak teams away - so that may change)

Im not trying to take anything away from them... All im saying is that I think they are more effective than us because they play long ball or try to get a winger to out-sprint a full back and cross.

Look at the Inter match when they won (they were 4-0 down at half time in the away leg remember)... They played with a lot of urgency and basically were too quick for Inter on a fairly small pitch at WHL. After that game people came out saying how "great" Bale is etc, but personally I don't buy it. To me, all that display did is show that Maicon can't defend well or handle pace, which is basically what Bale relies on.