Towns & Cities that are F----d.

Middlesbrough. Was there in 02/3 ish. (We lost 3-1, the Elk scored). When we exited the train station we were genuinely aghast that folk lived there. It almost made Glasgow look salubrious.
When I went there 50 years ago you could’t see anything for a chemical haze hanging over the town.
 
I've heard, on another forum that downtown San Francisco is chocked with weirdos and homeless . Big stores pulling out, Westfield, H&M, Nordstrom all leaving apparently.
Perhaps fogblue can enlighten us.

 
Both deadhead towns (technically cities as you rightly say). They've spent a bit of money on regenerating Donny, with the wool market development etc, some good eateries in there and within the proximity. However, it is a traveller town which brings its own issues, like with nearby Barnsley. Always cause trouble at the boxing shows I attend around there, the drink is usually the common denominator.

I have visited Doncaster a few times to go out for dinner, it's one of those typical Yorkshire drinking towns, so even the places that have had a facelift are full of the bootcut jeans wearing fellas and fishwives in tow, we've had a shit time each time we've been, space invading mouth breathers all over you in the bars and restaurants. No facelift will ever breed any class into areas like that, unfortunately.

I used to have a few building sites I helped manage in Rotherham, the purple hair brigade with loads of kids not in school was par for the course there. Seen one you've seen them all. Each development was forever being vandalised and tools nicked if they weren't nailed down. The type of place where someone will take a workman's trowel into the pub and try to flog it.
To be fair, apart from the locals, Barnsley isnt that bad, but a lot of the surrounding villages, particularly to the North and East are rough as. The other side towards the pennines, is fairly up market with villages like Cawthorne, Silkstone (the bit where Johnny Stones was brought up) and towards Holmfirth.
 
To be fair, apart from the locals, Barnsley isnt that bad, but a lot of the surrounding villages, particularly to the North and East are rough as. The other side towards the pennines, is fairly up market with villages like Cawthorne, Silkstone (the bit where Johnny Stones was brought up) and towards Holmfirth.

I was stuck working around the Holmfirth area for about a year, not my kind of gig. Country bumpkins, local place for local people sort of place. Very anti anything Manchester, other than the odd armchair United fan, but they've never been. Same for Leeds, 'why would we go there, they're city folk'. Met too many people of this ilk for it to be a coincidence, I couldn't live round there if it was free.
 
I was stuck working around the Holmfirth area for about a year, not my kind of gig. Country bumpkins, local place for local people sort of place. Very anti anything Manchester, other than the odd armchair United fan, but they've never been. Same for Leeds, 'why would we go there, they're city folk'. Met too many people of this ilk for it to be a coincidence, I couldn't live round there if it was free.


Been there with the wife twice and it smells damp like it's rotting. I know it sounds stupid but it really does :)
 
Been there with the wife twice and it smells damp like it's rotting. I know it sounds stupid but it really does :)

I've lived round there mate and can agree. Shitehole of a fucking place living in a time warp. Roads and houses that haven't been developed since horse and cart were used.
 
I've lived round there mate and can agree. Shitehole of a fucking place living in a time warp. Roads and houses that haven't been developed since horse and cart were used.

It's lovely IMHO when you get out of the town centre into the suburbs, has it always smelled so bad mate?
 
I've lived round there mate and can agree. Shitehole of a fucking place living in a time warp. Roads and houses that haven't been developed since horse and cart were used.
When we lived in Oldham we'd go up that area to escape sometimes in the hills, lovely as long as you didn't need to converse with any locals.
 

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