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waspish said:
Yeah seen that video I rather read that what I posted to see what’s coming up with DC,
Some good stuff there..
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Having watched the vid, read your post and know the wish that DC want (to be popular and make big money), I'm puzzled how they aim to knock Marvel off their perch if they're focusing on obscure characters and storylines that will, no doubt, be unfriendly to kids and families!

I'm, totally, confused about the market they're pursuing!

I mean 'Damian Wayne', if following the true arc, is/ was not averse to ending someone's life as his 'justice' and sees his father as 'weak' for not being as decisive as him!

And the complaint about Zack Snyder was about him being too dark!!

WTF??
 
Bigga said:
Having watched the vid, read your post and know the wish that DC want (to be popular and make big money), I'm puzzled how they aim to knock Marvel off their perch if they're focusing on obscure characters and storylines that will, no doubt, be unfriendly to kids and families!

I'm, totally, confused about the market they're pursuing!

I mean 'Damian Wayne', if following the true arc, is/ was not averse to ending someone's life as his 'justice' and sees his father as 'weak' for not being as decisive as him!

And the complaint about Zack Snyder was about him being too dark!!

WTF??
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See that’s what gets me interested in some of those obscure shows it’s something different! Yep you have the Superman Batman films it’s the tv shows am liking..
 
waspish said:
Agree seems all this shit has been done before but Dc have announced new tv and films

DC Slate Unveiled: New Batman, Supergirl Movies, a Green Lantern TV Show, and More From James Gunn, Peter Safran

The DC Studios bosses shared 10 projects, talked the exit of Henry Cavill and addressed the potential future of Ezra Miller as the Flash as they introduced a slate of big heroes and lesser-known characters. "The stakes are massive for us and for Warner Bros. Discovery," says Safran.

January 31, 2023 9:00AM PST
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A new Batman movie without Robert Pattinson (but featuring Bruce Wayne’s murderous son). A Superman movie on the release schedule (mark your calendars for July 11, 2025). A Game of Thrones-style drama set on Wonder Woman’s home island of Themyscira (Amazonian palace intrigue). And an animated series already in production (Creature Commandos … wait, what?).

That’s just part of what will be coming to theaters and TV screens as part of DC Studios bosses James Gunn and Peter Safran’s new slate.

The pair have been busy in the three months since taking over and combining the film and television slate of DC properties, including live-action and animation as well as gaming. They revamped the way the movie and TV sides do business, cutting ties with projects and creators. A writers room was formed to find an overall story that will launch a unified DC Universe. Creators have been approached. And a plan — at least part of one for what is being billed as Chapter 1: God and Monsters — was formulated, and a slate of projects put into development.

Now, after ambitiously promising fans that they would have something to show them by Feb. 1, Gunn and Safran have unveiled the first part of their slate. It’s a combination of big, well-known heroes along with lesser-known characters — who may just become big, like the once-obscure heroes of Gunn’s Guardians of the Galaxy films over at Marvel Studios. The duo shared their plans Monday with reporters in a petite and tidy screening room on the Warner Bros. lot in Burbank.

“One of our strategies is to take our diamond characters — which is Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman — and we use them to prop up other characters that people don’t know,” explained Gunn.

Added Safran, “To build those lesser known properties into the diamond properties of tomorrow.”

While plans may yet shift, cautioned the duo, here is the initial slate of projects for Chapter 1, in the order they’re planned to appear.

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Creature Commandos: A seven-episode animated series, written by Gunn, that is already in production. Originally a team of classic monsters assembled to fight Nazis, this is a modern take on the concept. The voice actors have yet to be cast, but the executives are looking to find people who can voice the animated characters and also portray the live-action versions when the antiheroes show up in movies and series.

Waller: In a spinoff of Gunn’s own HBO Max hit series Peacemaker, Viola Davis will return as the ruthless and morally ambiguous head of a government task force. It is being written by Christal Henry (Watchmen) and Jeremy Carver, the creator of the Doom Patrol TV series.

Superman: Legacy: The movie featuring the Man of Steel that Gunn is writing and may direct, although no commitments on that end have been made. While the two previous titles are meant to be “aperitifs,” in Safran’s words, Superman is the true kick-off for the duo’s DCU plans. “It’s not an origin story,” Safran said. “It focuses on Superman balancing his Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing. He is the embodiment of truth, justice and the American way. He is kindness in a world that thinks that kindness is old-fashioned.” A release date of July 11, 2025, has been penciled in.

Lanterns: Greg Berlanti’s long-in-the-works Green Lanterns TV series has been scrapped (and Gunn and Safran have parted ways with the longtime DC series steward). In its place will be a new take on the space cops with power rings. “Our vision for this is very much in the vein of True Detective,” Safran described. “It’s terrestrial-based.” It will feature prominent Lantern heroes Hal Jordan and John Stewart and is one of the most important shows they have in development. “This plays a really big role in leading into the main story we are telling across film and TV.”

The Authority: A movie based on a team of superheroes with rather extreme methods of protecting the planet that first originated in the late 1990s under an influential imprint known as Wildstorm, run by artist and now head of DC publishing Jim Lee. “One of the things of the DCU is that it’s not just a story of heroes and villains,” said Gunn. “Not every film and TV show is going to be about good guy versus bad guy, giant things from the sky come and good guy wins. There are white hats, black hats and gray hats.” Added Safran: “They are kinda like Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men. They know that you want them on the wall. Or at least they believe that.”

Paradise Lost: The duo describe this HBO Max series as a Game of Thrones-style drama set on the all-female island that is Wonder Woman’s birthplace, Themyscira, filled with political intrigue and scheming between power players. It takes place before the events of the Wonder Woman films.

The Brave and the Bold: “This is the introduction of the DCU Batman,” said Gunn, “of Bruce Wayne, and also introduces our favorite Robin, Damian Wayne, who is a little son of a bitch.” The movie will take inspiration from the now-classic Batman run written by Grant Morrison that introduced Batman to a son he never knew existed: a murderous tween raised by assassins. “It’s a very strange father-and-son story.”

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The Batman sequel: Pattinson will continue to portray the Dark Knight in at least one more crime saga movie directed by Matt Reeves. That movie, the executives revealed, will be released Oct. 3, 2025, and is being titled The Batman Part II.

“2025 is going to be a very big year for DC,” crowed Safran. “Superman and Batman within the same year.”

Booster Gold: An HBO Max series based on a unique, lesser-known hero created in 1986. Safran said of the series, “It’s about a loser from the future who uses basic future technology to come back to today and pretend to be a superhero.” Gunn described it as “imposter syndrome as superhero.”

Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow: Taking its cues from the recent Tom King-written miniseries, this movie promises a different take than what most think of when Superman’s cousin comes to mind. “We will see the difference between Superman, who was sent to Earth and raised by loving parents from the time he was an infant, versus Supergirl, raised on a rock, a chip off of Krypton, and who watched everyone around her die and be killed in terrible ways for the first 14 years of her life and then come to Earth. She is much more hard-core and not the Supergirl we’re used to.”

Swamp Thing: A horror film that promises to close out the first part of the first chapter.


Before audiences get to those films and series, however, there is a matter of this year’s crop of movies, starting with Shazam! Fury of the Gods, coming March 17, and continuing with The Flash (June 16), Blue Beetle (Aug. 18) and Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom (Dec. 25).

Gunn and Safran are high on the quartet, made under the previous film regime and the aegis of DC Films, run by former head Walter Hamada. Gunn calls The Flash, directed by Andy Muschietti, “probably one of the greatest superhero movies ever made.”

He also said the four leads of those films could potentially return to their roles in DCU projects down the line. “There is nothing that prohibits that from happening,” said Gunn.

Among those actors is Ezra Miller, the troubled star of The Flash who has found themselves at the center of several criminal investigations (they pleaded guilty to trespassing earlier this month) and who, in August, announced they were seeking treatment for “complex mental health issues.”

Safran said the executives remained hopeful Miller is on a path to betterment. “Ezra is completely committed to their recovery. We are fully supportive of that journey they are on right now. When the time is right, when they are ready to have that discussion, we will all figure out what’s the best path forward. But right now, they are completely focused on their recovery. And in our conversation with them, in the last couple of months, it feels like they are making enormous progress.”

The duo also discussed their approach to casting writ large, whether it was returning or new actors. The TV series will look to cast actors who will also play the parts on the big screen. Just as John Cena played the violent figure Peacemaker in Gunn’s The Suicide Squad then in the Peacemaker series, anyone cast as Hal Jordan and John Stewart in Lanterns, for example, will then cross over into the films.

“We don’t want the series to feel in any way like step-children or lesser-than,” said Gunn. “It’s just another way to tell a story.” (They like being able to spend eight hours digging deep into certain characters.)

And they took on the touchy subject of Henry Cavill, tipped to return as Superman in a cameo in last year’s Black Adam but who, in the end, will not return as Superman, much to the chagrin of a vocal fan base.

“We didn’t fire Henry. Henry was never cast,” said Gunn. “For me, it’s about, Who do I want to cast as Superman, and who do the filmmakers we have want to cast? And for me, for this story, it isn’t Henry.”

He added: “I like Henry, I think he’s a great guy. I think he’s getting dicked around by a lot of people, including the former regime at this company. But this Superman is not Henry, for a number of reasons.”

The executives also tried to walk the line of if and how to deal with actors who step into controversy, with Shazam!’s Zachary Levi being the most recent example. Over the weekend, Levi tweeted words against pharmaceutical giant Pfizer, known for its COVID-19 vaccine, which many interpreted as the actor having anti-vaccine views.

“Actors, filmmakers that I work with are going to say things that I agree with, and things that I don’t agree with,” said Gunn, who in 2018 was temporarily fired by Disney as director of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 due to old, offensive tweets. “I can’t be changing my plans all the time because an actor says something that I don’t agree with. At the same token, if someone is doing something that is morally reprehensible, that’s a different story. And we have to take that into account.”

Though Gunn and Safran are working in one DC Universe, some stories will stand apart. Reeves’ Batman movies and Todd Phillips’ sequel to Joker will fall under a banner titled DC Elseworlds, which will, just as in the comics, fall outside the larger continuity of the DCU. The Black Superman project, being written by Ta-Nehisi Coates under the previous regime, remains in active development and would also fall under that category. Teen Titans Go!, the popular and long-running cartoon series on Cartoon Network also falls under that banner, the duo said.

“The bar is going to be very high for projects to be outside the DCU, the Elseworlds projects,” explained Safran. “But every now and then there will be something that lives up to that.”

Gunn and Safran also stressed the importance of strong screenplays, saying a focus there would prevent the dreaded feeling of “superhero fatigue” and also give the projects a tonal and thematic difference from each other. Gunn called out the degradation of screenwriters in Hollywood and also said that the duo wanted to be respectful of the voice of filmmakers they were working with … up to a point.

“It’s not the Gunnverse, it’s not,” Gunn said. “It’s got to be all these different feels from all these different stories. That’s what makes it so fun. The stories are completely different, and each has the individual expression of the writers and the director that are making those projects.”

But, he added, “We’re not stupid. Not every filmmaker is going to be happy. Because if someone is doing something that isn’t working, we’re going to be honest.”

Gunn and Safran’s hirings were the culmination of over a half-year quest by Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav to find someone to lead a screen division of DC. In his own words, Zaslav was looking for a ”Kevin Feige,” the storied and successful head of rival Marvel Studios, who has led the Disney-owned company to a seemingly endless string of hits, all the while telling a unified and interconnected story. Gunn became an A-list filmmaker under Feige, who hired him to direct 2014’s Guardians of the Galaxy, but he was quick to note this is not a Marvel redux: “A lot of people are thinking this is Marvel 2.0. It’s not.”

“Zaslav had a vision in mind of a stand-alone studio that would have everything DC, centralized,” said Safran. “And that was the appeal for us, coming in and having access to any character, any story, and to tell the stories we wanted to tell across all the mediums.”

As Gunn said, “The history of DC is pretty messed up,” referring to the turmoil and dysconnectivity that has roiled and foiled Warner Bros. Pictures’ plans for the comic book properties over the last dozen or so years. There was filmmaker Zack Snyder’s multimovie universe that sputtered halfway through. There was an attempted course correction by Joss Whedon that maybe made things worse. There were the several changes in studio leadership and ownership. And there was the Arrowverse, the successful if niche TV side of DC that aired for over a decade on The CW.

“No one was minding the mint,” says Gunn. “They were giving away IP like they were party favors at any creator who smiled at them.”

For Gunn, being handed the keys to a comic book universe is like something out of a childhood dream.
Growing up in St. Louis, Gunn described himself as “a lost, screwed-up kid” who didn’t feel like he belonged.

His father and mother were so concerned that they sent him to a psychiatrist, who advised them to take interest in his interests — which happened to be reading, writing and drawing comic books. In one attempt at connecting, Gunn’s father took him to Creation Comic Con, a big comic convention in Chicago. It remains the best weekend he’s ever had, a time that solidified a magic and connection to the medium and its colorful characters.

Gunn now wants to bring that magic and connection to moviegoing and TV-watching audiences by revamping DC Studios in a way that hasn’t been done before.

“I have an incredibly deep connection to these characters, to these stories, and to wanting to create that type of magic not only in the kid that I was, but in the connection that I had with my father, with friends later on,” Gunn explained. “And wanting to create a unified world in DC where we tell stories.”

In the end, both Gunn and Safran know not only what’s at stake but also the enormous opportunity being presented them. For Safran, it’s the chance to impact and change the culture, be it the company culture of how it approaches storytelling to the broader popular culture.

Gunn lit up in giddiness at the pure magic of it all.

“This is not only a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, it’s a once opportunity. It’s me, now. No one has ever gotten to do this before. And how could I say no to that?”
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I think DC are still struggling to grasp what the audience want. The growth of the MCU was a lot more organic.

They need a couple of strong movies and then grow it out from there. Announcing 10 new projects is just going to confuse too many. Superman and Batman has been done to death. It's messy and nobody can tell where the whole thing begins because some actors have been cut, some have been kept on.

I like the monsters take but Chapter 1 should have been 3 or 4 movies across the span of 18-24months. No Batman, no Superman. Chapter 2 could then have been 2 sequels and 2 new movies. It's too rushed as it is.
 
MCFC1993 said:
I think DC are still struggling to grasp what the audience want. The growth of the MCU was a lot more organic.

They need a couple of strong movies and then grow it out from there. Announcing 10 new projects is just going to confuse too many. Superman and Batman has been done to death. It's messy and nobody can tell where the whole thing begins because some actors have been cut, some have been kept on.

I like the monsters take but Chapter 1 should have been 3 or 4 movies across the span of 18-24months. No Batman, no Superman. Chapter 2 could then have been 2 sequels and 2 new movies. It's too rushed as it is.
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Nah they need Superman and Batman they are the money makers at the box office for them, the obscure characters won’t work to bring audiences in, Peacemaker was really good but it wasn’t for kids and kids are what drive the comic book success. Marvel did it right building to an Endgame although I think they’ve lost their way at the moment just churning out lots of sub standard stuff, I’m hoping the new Antman gets them back on track. Flashpoint might change my mind but that seems to have changed now as they’ve binned the cameos by Cavill and Gadot as they seem to be gone now. Personally I’d have let Snyder finish his trilogy as Darkseid looked great but sadly they binned him.
 
Going on from the DC post this news


DC Confirms Why Henry Cavill Isn’t Superman Anymore

With a new regime in place, DC Studios heads James Gunn and Peter Safran explain why Henry Cavill won't be part of their future plans.

Joe GeorgeFebruary 1, 2023
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Henry Cavill as Superman in Justice League The Snyder Cut
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On the one hand, it’s hard to feel too bad for a guy who’s incredibly handsome, incredibly rich, and gets to spend a lot of time indulging his nerdy habits. On the other, you can’t deny that things have been pretty rough lately for Henry Cavill. The man seems to have been stuck in a “will he/won’t he” holding pattern for years.

First, the Snyderverse seemed to be done after the Joss Whedon cut of Justice League flopped, and then it seemed back when Zack Snyder’s Justice League hit HBO. And just when everyone from Warner Bros CEO David Zaslav to DC Chief Creative Office Jim Lee said that there were no plans for future Snyderverse movies, Cavill swoops in for a cameo at the end of Black Adam.

When Black Adam released in October 2022, Cavill made it very clear that he wanted to don the blue and red tights once again, albeit this time as a “joyful” Superman. And several insiders suggested that DC was ready as well, even as James Gunn and Peter Safran took the reins. But after Cavill tweeted that he spoke with Gunn and Safran and learned he wasn’t part of the future plans, people feared the worst — which finally got confirmed during yesterday’s DCU announcements.

Asked about the Superman: Legacy movie that Gunn is writing and Cavill’s role in it, the director set the record straight. “We didn’t fire Henry,” he clarified to Deadline. “Henry was never cast. He was in a cameo, and that was the end of his story.” Indeed, like many of the vaunted promises Dwayne Johnson made while promoting Black Adam, the return of Cavill’s Superman proved to be empty hype.

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“A lot of people made assumptions which weren’t true,” continued Gunn. “But for me, it’s about who do I want to cast as Superman and who do the filmmakers want to cast.”

At this point, we know little about what exactly Gunn plans to do with Superman: Legacy. He’s claimed that he’s writing a younger character, meaning that the 39-year-old actor wouldn’t fit. That said, Gunn did pair his announcement with an image from All-Star Superman, the beloved 12-issue run from artist Frank Quitely and writer Grant Morrison, one of several of the latter’s works mentioned during Gunn’s briefing to DC fans. That story features a middle-aged Superman embarking on his final adventure, something that would be perfect for a man of Cavill’s age, if not older.


Whatever his future plans for the Man of Steel might be, Gunn acknowledged that Cavill won’t be involved and that the actor (and, by extension, his fans) was mistreated by Warner Bros. “I like Henry,” Gunn assured the press. “He’s a great guy. I think he’s gotten dicked around by a lot of people, including former regimes of this company.”

Will that acknowledgment leave the door open for Cavill to return to the DC Universe as another character? It’s not clear. But hopefully, whatever’s next for the actor will be on his terms. Because even incredibly handsome and rich guys deserve to be treated with dignity.

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waspish said:
Going on from the DC post this news


DC Confirms Why Henry Cavill Isn’t Superman Anymore

With a new regime in place, DC Studios heads James Gunn and Peter Safran explain why Henry Cavill won't be part of their future plans.

Joe GeorgeFebruary 1, 2023
By | | 0
Henry Cavill as Superman in Justice League The Snyder Cut
Photo: Warner Bros. / HBO Max
On the one hand, it’s hard to feel too bad for a guy who’s incredibly handsome, incredibly rich, and gets to spend a lot of time indulging his nerdy habits. On the other, you can’t deny that things have been pretty rough lately for Henry Cavill. The man seems to have been stuck in a “will he/won’t he” holding pattern for years.

First, the Snyderverse seemed to be done after the Joss Whedon cut of Justice League flopped, and then it seemed back when Zack Snyder’s Justice League hit HBO. And just when everyone from Warner Bros CEO David Zaslav to DC Chief Creative Office Jim Lee said that there were no plans for future Snyderverse movies, Cavill swoops in for a cameo at the end of Black Adam.

When Black Adam released in October 2022, Cavill made it very clear that he wanted to don the blue and red tights once again, albeit this time as a “joyful” Superman. And several insiders suggested that DC was ready as well, even as James Gunn and Peter Safran took the reins. But after Cavill tweeted that he spoke with Gunn and Safran and learned he wasn’t part of the future plans, people feared the worst — which finally got confirmed during yesterday’s DCU announcements.

Asked about the Superman: Legacy movie that Gunn is writing and Cavill’s role in it, the director set the record straight. “We didn’t fire Henry,” he clarified to Deadline. “Henry was never cast. He was in a cameo, and that was the end of his story.” Indeed, like many of the vaunted promises Dwayne Johnson made while promoting Black Adam, the return of Cavill’s Superman proved to be empty hype.

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“A lot of people made assumptions which weren’t true,” continued Gunn. “But for me, it’s about who do I want to cast as Superman and who do the filmmakers want to cast.”

At this point, we know little about what exactly Gunn plans to do with Superman: Legacy. He’s claimed that he’s writing a younger character, meaning that the 39-year-old actor wouldn’t fit. That said, Gunn did pair his announcement with an image from All-Star Superman, the beloved 12-issue run from artist Frank Quitely and writer Grant Morrison, one of several of the latter’s works mentioned during Gunn’s briefing to DC fans. That story features a middle-aged Superman embarking on his final adventure, something that would be perfect for a man of Cavill’s age, if not older.


Whatever his future plans for the Man of Steel might be, Gunn acknowledged that Cavill won’t be involved and that the actor (and, by extension, his fans) was mistreated by Warner Bros. “I like Henry,” Gunn assured the press. “He’s a great guy. I think he’s gotten dicked around by a lot of people, including former regimes of this company.”

Will that acknowledgment leave the door open for Cavill to return to the DC Universe as another character? It’s not clear. But hopefully, whatever’s next for the actor will be on his terms. Because even incredibly handsome and rich guys deserve to be treated with dignity.

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Interesting non committal on Cavill's version of Supes.

Seems more like a fence sitting hiatus to see how 'Superman: Legacy' fares, especially with 'Flash' having the ability to visit other multiverses AND allowing 'elseworld' stories to exist.

It's quite clever, really.
 
Bigga said:
Interesting non committal on Cavill's version of Supes.

Seems more like a fence sitting hiatus to see how 'Superman: Legacy' fares, especially with 'Flash' having the ability to visit other multiverses AND allowing 'elseworld' stories to exist.

It's quite clever, really.
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Didn’t Cavill quit The Witcher because he thought he was going back to being superman?
 
Bigga said:
Love that you help keep this alive!

Sterling job!

Guy Ritchie's back with his own titling now! Film looks decent to be fair!

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Shades of Hi-tech Rambo, but that does look like a top yarn...definitely on the watch list
 
waspish said:
Didn’t Cavill quit The Witcher because he thought he was going back to being superman?
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According to Cavill, he was told to say that.

But, who really knows with all the face saving tropes going around DC which is why, according to the article you posted from 'Den of Geeks', Gunn has specified Cavill 'has not been fired, just not included'. Super interesting word play, that I see gives them wiggle room to return to Cavill to revisit a timeline of the 'Snyderverse', should they need to.

So Cavill, now, gets to actually produce 'War Hammer' via Apple TV, who just throws money at anything at the moment and the scope could be incredible, make Cavill the top dog and gives him leverage to return should Gunn f-up this phase of the DCU, which I can see happening, tbh.
 
Always Ali said:
Shades of Hi-tech Rambo, but that does look like a top yarn...definitely on the watch list
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I ended up thinking a little on your answer and the 'Rambo' aspect is not going to be the mainstay commentary for this film, but more about the interpreters that put theirs and their families lives in jeopardy by working with the US military and got left behind when those army personnel left without a second thought for those interpreters.

I think the action is secondary to the guilt and disgust factor of the US gov.

I don't think Gyllenhaal would have made this film, otherwise.
 
Films out this week:

Cinema
Argonuts (Epic Tails) - Friday 10th February


Big Trip 2 - Friday 10th February


Titanic (25th Anniversary) - 4K 3D - Friday 10th February


Women Talking - Friday 10th February


Magic Mike's Last Dance - Friday 10th February - Put this one on last weeks but some websites saying this week, not actually checked.



Rough week. Women Talking is nominated for best picture but don't know how many will go out to watch that sort of film. A lot of people may go to watch Titanic in 4k 3D.
 
Films out this week:

Streaming
Somebody I Used To Know - Amazon Prime - Friday 10th February


Your Place or Mine - Netflix - Friday 10th February
 
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