Trayvon Martin

The jury found him not guilty.

The accused wasn't white yet there is still a race furore.

If only there was as much of a reaction to OJ being found not guilty.

Race has yet again become a political football.
 
rick773 said:
basokla said:
floridablues said:
Being from Florida I can say I have kept myself updated on this case and I'm just glad to see the trial be over now. Wether or not you agree with the verdict you cannot argue and say that the trial was unfair or biased because it was a fair case and with the evidence that was brought forth SIX jurors unanimously decided based on the evidence they were shown that Zimmerman was acting in self defense. While its terrible that Trayvon had to die those who try to portay him as an innocent and sweet 17 year old boy clearly just are turning a blind eye to the facts. People should be informed of the whole case when voicing there opinion. But everyone is entitled to their opinions and that's just me voicing mine :)

Very well said.

That's not well said at all. How was he not a "sweet,innocent" and 17 year old boy? I'm sure some fucking moron like frank the yank will come accuse me of not watching enough cable news but this is ridiculous as anything said about trayvon is typical teenage behaviour .I just hope someone follows Zimmerman around, waits for him to react then stands their ground and murders him. It's legal after all.

Not only is one defined by ones friends but by ones enemies as well. If you call me a "moron", then I feel quite comfortable with that. One uses invective like that when one is losing/loses the argument.

I do wonder how much of the trial you, and everyone with our mindset, actually watched. Lets be honest, you swallowed the medias false narrative hook, line and sinker. This was a politically motivated case-plain and simple. The states attorney sacked the districts prosecutor and police chief after they did its investigations and refused to prosecute. The states witnesses were either complete train wrecks or they buttressed the defenses arguments. Keep in mind the accused doesnt have to prove a thing and doesnt even have to put on a case. A PROSECUTIONS witness claimed he saw Zimmerman on the bottom getting beated up. One thing I hadnt seen get much mention at all. When one of the detectives was interviewing Zimmerman he tried to bluff him as homicide investigators do-especially when they have fuck all. He told Zimmerman that he thinks they have video of the whole thing just to try to get a reaction. His reaction was, "I hope you have it all on video."

Now it pointless to go over some of the evidence when people just wish to believe their own/the medias narrative.

I feel VERY comfortable being on the opposite side of Al Sharpton. This is Duke lacrosse case Part 2.

I am certain all thsoe race hustlers and poverty pimps will be on the next flight to Chicago to protest the SCORES of young black people being slaughtered and maimed by illegal handguns. Oh wait that doesnt matter and its a subject they odnt wish to talk about. Its black people doing it to black people so its all OK then, isnt it????

Have to dash as I am off to the airport for a rather long trip to Bangkok. I am outta here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Frank the Yank said:
rick773 said:
basokla said:
Very well said.

That's not well said at all. How was he not a "sweet,innocent" and 17 year old boy? I'm sure some fucking moron like frank the yank will come accuse me of not watching enough cable news but this is ridiculous as anything said about trayvon is typical teenage behaviour .I just hope someone follows Zimmerman around, waits for him to react then stands their ground and murders him. It's legal after all.

Not only is one defined by ones friends but by ones enemies as well. If you call me a "moron", then I feel quite comfortable with that. One uses invective like that when one is losing/loses the argument.

I do wonder how much of the trial you, and everyone with our mindset, actually watched. Lets be honest, you swallowed the medias false narrative hook, line and sinker. This was a politically motivated case-plain and simple. The states attorney sacked the districts prosecutor and police chief after they did its investigations and refused to prosecute. The states witnesses were either complete train wrecks or they buttressed the defenses arguments. Keep in mind the accused doesnt have to prove a thing and doesnt even have to put on a case. A PROSECUTIONS witness claimed he saw Zimmerman on the bottom getting beated up. One thing I hadnt seen get much mention at all. When one of the detectives was interviewing Zimmerman he tried to bluff him as homicide investigators do-especially when they have fuck all. He told Zimmerman that he thinks they have video of the whole thing just to try to get a reaction. His reaction was, "I hope you have it all on video."

Now it pointless to go over some of the evidence when people just wish to believe their own/the medias narrative.

I feel VERY comfortable being on the opposite side of Al Sharpton. This is Duke lacrosse case Part 2.

I am certain all thsoe race hustlers and poverty pimps will be on the next flight to Chicago to protest the SCORES of young black people being slaughtered and maimed by illegal handguns. Oh wait that doesnt matter and its a subject they odnt wish to talk about. Its black people doing it to black people so its all OK then, isnt it????

Have to dash as I am off to the airport for a rather long trip to Bangkok. I am outta here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. I called you a moron because you called me a schmuck. I haven't lost anything. I'm just not a fan of being called names an old Jewish woman would use

2. The fake video trick means nothing , if there was a video they'd have showed him a video.

3. Ultimately what do you think the cause of all this black on black crime in Chicago is? How did all those blacks get into Chicago in the first place? Is it the illegal handguns or the circumstance? How much time have you spent in cook county courts watching 2nd rate public defenders pushing poor(economically) blacks on their 1st offense to take prison time when a white guy would have just for probation?
 
rick773 said:
basokla said:
floridablues said:
Being from Florida I can say I have kept myself updated on this case and I'm just glad to see the trial be over now. Wether or not you agree with the verdict you cannot argue and say that the trial was unfair or biased because it was a fair case and with the evidence that was brought forth SIX jurors unanimously decided based on the evidence they were shown that Zimmerman was acting in self defense. While its terrible that Trayvon had to die those who try to portay him as an innocent and sweet 17 year old boy clearly just are turning a blind eye to the facts. People should be informed of the whole case when voicing there opinion. But everyone is entitled to their opinions and that's just me voicing mine :)

Very well said.

That's not well said at all. How was he not a "sweet,innocent" and 17 year old boy? I'm sure some fucking moron like frank the yank will come accuse me of not watching enough cable news but this is ridiculous as anything said about trayvon is typical teenage behaviour .I just hope someone follows Zimmerman around, waits for him to react then stands their ground and murders him. It's legal after all.

Nobody was murdered, you don't have a clue what you'r talking about.
It was a good post by the guy from Florida.
Since when has a black kid being shot by a latino, Hispanic bloke in Florida considered newsworthy anyway? It happens everyday, just not in an upscale, white, gated community.
 
This verdict really makes no sense. How could Zimmerman claim self defence or 'stand your ground' when HE was the attacker and instigator of the fracas? If anyone was 'standing his ground' or acting in self defence it was the now deceased Trayvon Martin. I can see how Zimmerman is not guilty of 2nd degree murder but to be found not guilty of manslaughter is unbelievable. Also the jury was made up of 6 women, five white and one latino. Why no men and more racially diverse people?




dazdon said:
The jury found him not guilty.

The accused wasn't white yet there is still a race furore.

If only there was as much of a reaction to OJ being found not guilty.

Race has yet again become a political football.



Yes he is white. He is a White Hispanic.

People are getting race and ethnicity confused.

Hispanic or Latino is NOT a race it's an ethnicity. There are Black Hispanics and White Hispanics.
 
intheknow! said:
This verdict really makes no sense. How could Zimmerman claim self defence or 'stand your ground' when HE was the attacker and instigator of the fracas? If anyone was 'standing his ground' or acting in self defence it was the now deceased Trayvon Martin. I can see how Zimmerman is not guilty of 2nd degree murder but to be found not guilty of manslaughter is unbelievable. Also the jury was made up of 6 women, five white and one latino. Why no men and more racially diverse people?




dazdon said:
The jury found him not guilty.

The accused wasn't white yet there is still a race furore.

If only there was as much of a reaction to OJ being found not guilty.

Race has yet again become a political football.



Yes he is white. He is a White Hispanic.

People are getting race and ethnicity confused.

Hispanic or Latino is NOT a race it's an ethnicity. There are Black Hispanics and White Hispanics.

Hispanics are as persecuted in the US as black people are....hispanics are on the cusp of being recognised as a race.

<a class="postlink" href="http://nbclatino.com/2013/01/04/census-might-make-hispanic-a-race/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://nbclatino.com/2013/01/04/census- ... ic-a-race/</a>

Zimmerman isn't white by that definition he is Hispanic.
 
intheknow! said:
"This verdict really makes no sense. How could Zimmerman claim self defence or 'stand your ground' when HE was the attacker and instigator of the fracas? If anyone was 'standing his ground' or acting in self defence it was the now deceased Trayvon Martin. I can see how Zimmerman is not guilty of 2nd degree murder but to be found not guilty of manslaughter is unbelievable. Also the jury was made up of 6 women, five white and one latino. Why no men and more racially diverse people?"



This is another instance of not being fully informed about the case. Zimmerman was not the one who attacked trayvon in the first place. Sure the 911 operator advised him not to follow but Zimmerman was on the neighborhood watch and it was in no way illegal to follow him. The evidence says with witnesses backing it up that trayvon was on top of Zimmerman beating him up "ground and pound style" and similar to MMA. If you don't think Zimmerman should have followed him there was also no need for trayvon to act out that violently
 
intheknow! said:
This verdict really makes no sense. How could Zimmerman claim self defence or 'stand your ground' when HE was the attacker and instigator of the fracas? If anyone was 'standing his ground' or acting in self defence it was the now deceased Trayvon Martin. I can see how Zimmerman is not guilty of 2nd degree murder but to be found not guilty of manslaughter is unbelievable. Also the jury was made up of 6 women, five white and one latino. Why no men and more racially diverse people?




dazdon said:
The jury found him not guilty.

The accused wasn't white yet there is still a race furore.

If only there was as much of a reaction to OJ being found not guilty.

Race has yet again become a political football.



Yes he is white. He is a White Hispanic.

People are getting race and ethnicity confused.

Hispanic or Latino is NOT a race it's an ethnicity. There are Black Hispanics and White Hispanics.

WTF is a white Hispanic? Is it because he's mixed race?
 
floridablues said:
intheknow! said:
"This verdict really makes no sense. How could Zimmerman claim self defence or 'stand your ground' when HE was the attacker and instigator of the fracas? If anyone was 'standing his ground' or acting in self defence it was the now deceased Trayvon Martin. I can see how Zimmerman is not guilty of 2nd degree murder but to be found not guilty of manslaughter is unbelievable. Also the jury was made up of 6 women, five white and one latino. Why no men and more racially diverse people?"



This is another instance of not being fully informed about the case. Zimmerman was not the one who attacked trayvon in the first place. Sure the 911 operator advised him not to follow but Zimmerman was on the neighborhood watch and it was in no way illegal to follow him. The evidence says with witnesses backing it up that trayvon was on top of Zimmerman beating him up "ground and pound style" and similar to MMA. If you don't think Zimmerman should have followed him there was also no need for trayvon to act out that violently

I am sure i read that the "ground and pound" statement was retracted by the witness, due to poor light making it impossible for him to be sure.
 
dazdon said:
intheknow! said:
This verdict really makes no sense. How could Zimmerman claim self defence or 'stand your ground' when HE was the attacker and instigator of the fracas? If anyone was 'standing his ground' or acting in self defence it was the now deceased Trayvon Martin. I can see how Zimmerman is not guilty of 2nd degree murder but to be found not guilty of manslaughter is unbelievable. Also the jury was made up of 6 women, five white and one latino. Why no men and more racially diverse people?




dazdon said:
The jury found him not guilty.

The accused wasn't white yet there is still a race furore.

If only there was as much of a reaction to OJ being found not guilty.

Race has yet again become a political football.



Yes he is white. He is a White Hispanic.

People are getting race and ethnicity confused.

Hispanic or Latino is NOT a race it's an ethnicity. There are Black Hispanics and White Hispanics.

Hispanics are as persecuted in the US as black people are....hispanics are on the cusp of being recognised as a race.

<a class="postlink" href="http://nbclatino.com/2013/01/04/census-might-make-hispanic-a-race/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://nbclatino.com/2013/01/04/census- ... ic-a-race/</a>

Zimmerman isn't white by that definition he is Hispanic.


Question; why are YOU using race as an argument??

Just taking the race issue aside, are you advocating that it is alright to kill a person that is unarmed, with a firearm, cos you are losing a fight you really started??

Pathetic and side stepping is your whole 'reasoning'.
 

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