Trayvon Martin

[johnmc]

The White Americans are defending Zimmerman.

Why? He isn't white.

His Dad who is a judge of German descent is.

I'm not saying Zimmerman is "white" anyway I'm just saying it's the White Americans who are defending him.

So if your dad is white then you must be white.

Anyway, why are white Americans defending him?

 

[Josh Blue]

Why? He isn't white.

His Dad who is a judge of German descent is.

I'm not saying Zimmerman is "white" anyway I'm just saying it's the White Americans who are defending him.

So if your dad is white then you must be white.

Anyway, why are white Americans defending him?

Doesn't matter

 

[johnmc]

Doesn't matter

Sorry pal. Just a question.

 

[Josh Blue]

Doesn't matter

Sorry pal. Just a question.

Naaa I just can't be arsed.

I'm going to stick to just reading this bullshit from now on.

 

[SWP's back]

He racially profiled a child and stalked them against the advice of the police department he then scuffled with the child and killed him. He said it was Gods work, he said he had no regrets.

This happened in one of the most racist countries on earth, if you think all of this is ok then good luck.

I don't think it's ok, but that's the law of their land and based on that law Zimmerman acted within it. Fucked up, yes, without a doubt, and in a way I'm very glad I don't have to live in that country or state permanently. 6 jurors, after hearing the evidence, having an understanding of the law also reached the same conclusion. He was tried by his peers, it should end there, people should not then be tried by media.

I think he might wish he had been found guilty Gaz, the guy has signed his death warrant for what he did.

No he hasn't. ANd if he has then that would be worse than the original murder/death.

 

[didactic]

No major surprises here what is surprising is then people wonder why us black people do not trust the police, the law or the judicial system.

R.I.P. Trayvon Martin and Steven Lawrence.

 

[hilts]

He racially profiled a child and stalked them against the advice of the police department he then scuffled with the child and killed him. He said it was Gods work, he said he had no regrets.

This happened in one of the most racist countries on earth, if you think all of this is ok then good luck.

I don't think it's ok, but that's the law of their land and based on that law Zimmerman acted within it. Fucked up, yes, without a doubt, and in a way I'm very glad I don't have to live in that country or state permanently. 6 jurors, after hearing the evidence, having an understanding of the law also reached the same conclusion. He was tried by his peers, it should end there, people should not then be tried by media.

I think he might wish he had been found guilty Gaz, the guy has signed his death warrant for what he did.

As a rule people will jump up and down a lot and then do fuck all, most people are full of hot air tbh

 

[Bluedancer]

I don't think it's ok, but that's the law of their land and based on that law Zimmerman acted within it. Fucked up, yes, without a doubt, and in a way I'm very glad I don't have to live in that country or state permanently. 6 jurors, after hearing the evidence, having an understanding of the law also reached the same conclusion. He was tried by his peers, it should end there, people should not then be tried by media.

I think he might wish he had been found guilty Gaz, the guy has signed his death warrant for what he did.

No he hasn't. ANd if he has then that would be worse than the original murder/death.

You don't think somebody will take revenge for what happened to Martin? I don't think it's the right thing to do but this guy is going to need a new identity for sure.

 

[SWP's back]

I think he might wish he had been found guilty Gaz, the guy has signed his death warrant for what he did.

No he hasn't. ANd if he has then that would be worse than the original murder/death.

You don't think somebody will take revenge for what happened to Martin? I don't think it's the right thing to do but this guy is going to need a new identity for sure.

You may well be right but I hope they don't as it would be what the racist lunatics on both sides need to stir the shit and have tit for tat killings.

 

[Bluedancer]

No he hasn't. ANd if he has then that would be worse than the original murder/death.

You don't think somebody will take revenge for what happened to Martin? I don't think it's the right thing to do but this guy is going to need a new identity for sure.

You may well be right but I hope they don't as it would be what the racist lunatics on both sides need to stir the shit and have tit for tat killings.

It only takes a few demonstrations and the police to wade in like they do for this to escalate further. I don't see the end of this to be honest, I think it will be the start of something major.

 

[dazdon]

Seems most of the Americans are defending Zimmerman. I've got some advice for you, should you ever come to visit Britain, don't try it here because you're going to prison for a long time.

The White Americans are defending Zimmerman.

Why? He isn't white.

Some posters on here have racially stereotyped him.......for their own agenda.

 

[Bigga]

Hispanics are as persecuted in the US as black people are....hispanics are on the cusp of being recognised as a race.

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Zimmerman isn't white by that definition he is Hispanic.

Question; why are YOU using race as an argument??

Just taking the race issue aside, are you advocating that it is alright to kill a person that is unarmed, with a firearm, cos you are losing a fight you really started??

Pathetic and side stepping is your whole 'reasoning'.

1. There is nothing inherently wrong about killing an unarmed person with a firearm. This is obvious. To illustrate, just imagine that you're in the process of being pushed off a cliff by an unarmed person.
So saying things along the lines of 'A was armed and B was unarmed!' is, on its face, not an argument for anything

2. If I just walked up to you and twatted you in the face and you reacted by escalating the confrontation to the point I had a reasonable fear of impending death or serious bodily harm, let's say you whipped out a chainsaw and swung it towards my neck, I don't think any sane person would say that I'd not be justified in shooting you.

3. In this particular case, there is no evidence to suggest Zimmerman started the fight - not that it even matters all that much since what really matters is what was occurring just before the shot.


On a side note, still seeing people talk about Stand Your Ground. This case was not SYG. This case surrounded classical self defense, given that Trayvon was straddled on top of Zimmerman - giving him no possible way of retreating.

Not sure why you would find it suitable, or clever to dissect my complete point that was framed IN CONTEXT into bite sized chunks.

You just look like a cock for doing so and therefore, taking away any relevance of whatever lost point you were trying to make!!

Secondly, 'starting a fight' can be classed under 'provocation'. You seem to think it was a physical action. IF you were being followed by a guard, in a shop, from aisle to aisle, even thought YOU knew you had done nothing wrong, lost the guard and surprised him as you walked around a corner, wouldn't YOU be tempted to ask why was he following you??

Bearing in mind, this would be a guard doing his paid JOB, any normal person would still be annoyed by such action.

Lastly, 'stand your ground' was the initial reason given for a defence to the shooting which Zimmerman was under the umbrella of. IF that was not the case, then that should have been clarified, as such, by the arresting officers or the defence attorney from day one.

It wasn't.

 

[mrcunny]

No major surprises here what is surprising is then people wonder why us black people do not trust the police, the law or the judicial system.

R.I.P. Trayvon Martin and Steven Lawrence.

Didnt hear you piping up about jacksons perverted antics or oj simpsons trial..no rioting to be seen then..
Im pretty much sick to the back teeth of reading and seeing anything that doesnt go right for the black folks..its a riot..oh yeah then they play the race card,police card and slave card...
The steven lawrence case is a prime example,do you know how many more young men have been killed in this country? why is steven lawrence so special?...

 

[Dzeko & Hyde]

Seems most of the Americans are defending Zimmerman. I've got some advice for you, should you ever come to visit Britain, don't try it here because you're going to prison for a long time.

The White Americans are defending Zimmerman.

A lot of Americans believe Zimmerman has a lot of responsibility for what happened. However, they also believe that he wasn't guilty of 2nd degree murder, or manslaughter, the way the law is written. The law sucks, and it needs to be changed to be more in line with common sense. But Zimmerman didn't violate it, so he shouldn't have been convicted, and he wasn't.

 

[johnny on the spot]

This from 4chan, whose discussions on this topic make this place look like a Nobel committee.

Contains 'N' word in satire, apologies.

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[Bigga]

The White Americans are defending Zimmerman.

Why? He isn't white.

Some posters on here have racially stereotyped him.......for their own agenda.

Interesting. You know I brought up the point of why you were doing the same and asked you to take out the race of the protagonists and you STILL failed to give any concerted answer on the matter!!

How can you, of all people, claim about any 'agenda', then??

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

No major surprises here what is surprising is then people wonder why us black people do not trust the police, the law or the judicial system.

R.I.P. Trayvon Martin and Steven Lawrence.

Didnt hear you piping up about jacksons perverted antics or oj simpsons trial..no rioting to be seen then..
Im pretty much sick to the back teeth of reading and seeing anything that doesnt go right for the black folks..its a riot..oh yeah then they play the race card,police card and slave card...
The steven lawrence case is a prime example,do you know how many more young men have been killed in this country? why is steven lawrence so special?...

Agree with this tbh

 

[Josh Blue]

The White Americans are defending Zimmerman.

Why? He isn't white.

Some posters on here have racially stereotyped him.......for their own agenda.

What is the agenda then?

You clearly don't have an agenda and are completely unbiased as usual.

 

[dazdon]

Why? He isn't white.

Some posters on here have racially stereotyped him.......for their own agenda.

Interesting. You know I brought up the point of why you were doing the same and asked you to take out the race of the protagonists and you STILL failed to give any concerted answer on the matter!!

How can you, of all people, claim about any 'agenda', then??

How the hell you can claim anyone has a racially motivated agenda is beyond me Bigga...you are a Jesse Jackson clone in a world of woe and pain.

This entire case was/is about race and labels, just because you didn't get the verdict you wanted there's no need lobbing those toys out of the pram.

I wasn't the one who referred to Zimmerman as a WHITE hispanic , the media were and every idiot in loonland ran with it.<br /><br />-- Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:45 pm --<br /><br />

Why? He isn't white.

Some posters on here have racially stereotyped him.......for their own agenda.

What is the agenda then?

You clearly don't have an agenda and are completely unbiased as usual.

Go on Josh....have it out and say what you will.

I double dare you idiot :-)

 

[Josh Blue]

No major surprises here what is surprising is then people wonder why us black people do not trust the police, the law or the judicial system.

R.I.P. Trayvon Martin and Steven Lawrence.

Didnt hear you piping up about jacksons perverted antics or oj simpsons trial..no rioting to be seen then..
Im pretty much sick to the back teeth of reading and seeing anything that doesnt go right for the black folks..its a riot..oh yeah then they play the race card,police card and slave card...
The steven lawrence case is a prime example,do you know how many more young men have been killed in this country? why is steven lawrence so special?...

Woah what an uneducated yet opinionated man.

Yeah racism wasn't invented and doesn't exist...