Oi, you’ve just blown my cover PHIL :)Fred and the rest of the crew went to Burnage and South Manchester,I lived in Middleton at the time and went the opposite way to them. And Barry was working in Holland by then,so I was on my Jack Jones that day mate. As I said there were about 5/6 mixed race (half- caste back then) hanging around as I approached my Triumph 1300 and they began to "interview " me about who I supported etc.
Was shitting myself(about half a mile from our own ground remember) and I remember thinking I am going to get a good kicking if they are United fans. Luckily I got away with it. No football shirts,scarves or any other football related clothing displayed by anybody involved. It was too risky to do that back in those days.
I went to OT with Fred,Barry and the rest of the boys a few times in those days. Most memorable was when the guy with the Afro hair got a dart in his head not too far away from us in The Scoreboard End at OT.
Were you with us at that game Dave??
Oi, you’ve just blown my cover PHIL :)
I don’t remember that dart incident but there were quite a few shithouses getting up to stunts like that in those days. I did go to most Derby’s at the swamp in those days but the only one I remember every minute of was 74 for obvious good and bad reasons.
Glad you’re retired now mate, nice to see some of us are still here. :)
Sorry Sid,from now on I will refer to you as DC to keep your deep cover top secret(For Your Eyes Only). It's great being retired but I do seem to spend a lot of my free time posting on Bluemoon.Oi, you’ve just blown my cover PHIL :)
I don’t remember that dart incident but there were quite a few shithouses getting up to stunts like that in those days. I did go to most Derby’s at the swamp in those days but the only one I remember every minute of was 74 for obvious good and bad reasons.
Glad you’re retired now mate, nice to see some of us are still here. :)
I never really noticed the Cool Cats at away matches in the 70s. A few of us from Middleton and a dozen or so from Burnage/Chorlton used to travel together as a crew in the mid-70s. There were always enough of us to confront and overwhelm and any similar size groups at away matches,and we could always join other small groups of Blues if we needed more numbers.You were glad the cats s/ governors were around in them days could be scary places back then to go to
I never really noticed the Cool Cats at away matches in the 70s. A few of us from Middleton and a dozen or so from Burnage/Chorlton used to travel together as a crew in the mid-70s. There were always enough of us to confront and overwhelm and any similar size groups at away matches,and we could always join other small groups of Blues if we needed more numbers.
If you squared up to opposition fans and decided that discretion was better than valour(i.e. you shit yourself and ran away) you had to answer to the 2 leaders of our group of Blues who were -----
Sid C and Fred P. ( Both scary guys when in a rumble,I was always glad they were on our side and made sure I stayed on the right side of them by not running away until they did).
I always think of Enemy At The Gates . The Wehrmact in front of you (opposition fans) and the Soviet Political Commissars(Sid C and Fred P) at the rear of you,ready to shoot you if you ran away!!!!
Ha, the only half and half I knew about in the 70s was a half of cider and a half of lager,which when combined became a pint of SNAKEBITE.But did you wear your half and half scarf:)
I never really noticed the Cool Cats at away matches in the 70s. A few of us from Middleton and a dozen or so from Burnage/Chorlton used to travel together as a crew in the mid-70s. There were always enough of us to confront and overwhelm and any similar size groups at away matches,and we could always join other small groups of Blues if we needed more numbers.
If you squared up to opposition fans and decided that discretion was better than valour(i.e. you shit yourself and ran away) you had to answer to the 2 leaders of our group of Blues who were -----
Sid C and Fred P. ( Both scary guys when in a rumble,I was always glad they were on our side and made sure I stayed on the right side of them by not running away until they did).
I always think of Enemy At The Gates . The Wehrmact in front of you (opposition fans) and the Soviet Political Commissars(Sid C and Fred P) at the rear of you,ready to shoot you if you ran away!!!!
Since I’ve found god I’ve changed, come to mass with me and love everyone no matter who they are’otherwise you’ll always have this anger in your hearts
Go in peace my fellow blues
and embrace dippers, rags, and half and half scarfers like your loved ones
Oh I don`t know ... I think you`re OK for a cnut. ;)
Deffo Fred Pr. He lived near the Parrs Wood pub as did a lot of his mates. For away matches Fred used to hire a mini-bus or van from Salford Van Hire,pick up us Middy lads in town and then meander from pub to pub in South Manchester (The Talbot, The Mauldeth and The Parrs Wood) picking up the rest of the boys.And he would stop on Kingsway to pick up his younger brother Damien,and then onto the motorway.
As you say,top days,not a care in the world,all I was interested in was the next City match and the next pint of beer.And not a fuckin half and half scarf anywhere in sight.
Slightly off topic buts he’s not dead yet.The very same
The beer monsters too
The mauldeth was our lots main boozer but loved the little derby arms too
Slightly off topic buts he’s not dead yet.
Oh shit. Sorry mateMy mate is .... went in March- not Fred
Correct.I don’t think that’s what he’s done. He’s just said that experiences many of us have had, has just desensitised us to violence and we’re not arsed when we see it. I doesn’t shock us, we don’t think it’s unacceptable, just a part of life and derby days. Not saying it’s right nor glorifying it.
But violence IS unacceptable and ISN'T part of life or derby days. This is where the change of thought process needs to happen, if you see some ****s fighting in or out of the ground, it's not normal or acceptable in a civilised society.I don’t think that’s what he’s done. He’s just said that experiences many of us have had, has just desensitised us to violence and we’re not arsed when we see it. I doesn’t shock us, we don’t think it’s unacceptable, just a part of life and derby days. Not saying it’s right nor glorifying it.
”It doesn’t shock us, we don’t think it’s unacceptable, just a part of life “I don’t think that’s what he’s done. He’s just said that experiences many of us have had, has just desensitised us to violence and we’re not arsed when we see it. I doesn’t shock us, we don’t think it’s unacceptable, just a part of life and derby days. Not saying it’s right nor glorifying it.
out of interest how old are you and where do you live?”It doesn’t shock us, we don’t think it’s unacceptable, just a part of life “
you sir are everything that’s wrong with society today - shameless statement without a hint of self awareness...