PistonBlue said:Fletcher will just say they are doing their job as it's against the law for you stand at a football match. They will argue that those who stand have caused the ruck because if they obeyed the law none of it would have happened.
I'm not siding with them I'm just telling you how they'll see it.
No it isn't. It's a block full of law breakers, technically.
THE LAW ON STANDING IN ALL-SEATED GROUNDS
- Ever since the introduction of all-seater stadia, many supporters have continued to stand in
front of their seats, often for the duration of the game.
- It is widely believed that this practice is illegal. This is not the case, even within Premier
League and Championship grounds. The law only provides that these clubs should provide
seats for all supporters, not that supporters must sit on them.
- The point is confirmed by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport: ‘At no point has it
been argued that the individual spectator commits a criminal offence by standing in a seated
area’ (Source: Letter to Football Supporters Federation, 2008)
What about 109?foley87 said:people do realise that incidents like today will result in the manchester council reducing the allowed allocation of the ground on match days dont you
its going to come to that unless people realise that standing in 106 107 108 isnt allowed. if you want to stand move to the singing sections.
Blue Smarties said:What about 109?foley87 said:people do realise that incidents like today will result in the manchester council reducing the allowed allocation of the ground on match days dont you
its going to come to that unless people realise that standing in 106 107 108 isnt allowed. if you want to stand move to the singing sections.
hilts said:PistonBlue said:jrb said:watched what happened from block 111.
Went for a drink at half-time. While I was stood in the queue I saw a City fan talking to a police officer on the concorse, who was taking notes/details. As the City fan walked through the queue we asked him what he said to the police officer. Told us that he had taken video footage via his camera phone of a Showsec steward assaulting a City fan.
Just spoke to my Girlfriend after she arrived home from the match. She sits above 111 and saw a Showsec steward assaulting a City fan.
Back to Mr Fletcher.
At the end of the day the buck stops with you. You are head of security at the stadium, which means you are in charge of Showsec and are responsible for their behaviour.
You have been warned time after time by the City fans on Blue Moon about the heavy handed behaviour of Showsec(£5 an hour bullies in yellow jackets), but you've done nothing about it.
Once again the Showsec mob tried to force City fans to sit down. Once again all they did was wind up City fans. This time they went too far and caused the disgraceful scenes in block 109. Then the Police were called in to try and restore order.
And what happened at the end of it all. The City fans were still stood up in block 109. So what did another Showsec show of force achieve? Nothing apart from assaulting City fans and causing more problems.
Mr Fletcher, please do us all a favour. Hand in your notice.
Fletcher will just say they are doing their job as it's against the law for you stand at a football match. They will argue that those who stand have caused the ruck because if they obeyed the law none of it would have happened.
I'm not siding with them I'm just telling you how they'll see it.
-- Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:05 pm --
hilts said:whether it is stated or not 109 is now a standing block, thats the reality, if the club want to randomly pick on a fan is up to them but it will make no difference at all
No it isn't. It's a block full of law breakers, technically.
try reading the post, everyone in 109 stands in REALITY it is a standing block you can call it what you want but if a block is standing it is a standing block whether right or wrong, is this clear for you
-- Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:12 pm --
GStar said:The hate for Peter Fletcher on this forum is a joke.
I hope he reads this and serves us all a dose by forcing the entire ground to sit. Rather than allowing two specific sections to break FA rules.
Then perhaps you'll all realise the fuckwittery in these kind of threads.
(that's not addressing individual behaviour of stewards, if what is alleged to have happened its unacceptable and I expect he'll pay with his job)
and how is going to do that?
goatfood said:hilts said:PistonBlue said:Fletcher will just say they are doing their job as it's against the law for you stand at a football match. They will argue that those who stand have caused the ruck because if they obeyed the law none of it would have happened.
I'm not siding with them I'm just telling you how they'll see it.
-- Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:05 pm --
No it isn't. It's a block full of law breakers, technically.
try reading the post, everyone in 109 stands in REALITY it is a standing block you can call it what you want but if a block is standing it is a standing block whether right or wrong, is this clear for you
-- Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:12 pm --
GStar said:The hate for Peter Fletcher on this forum is a joke.
I hope he reads this and serves us all a dose by forcing the entire ground to sit. Rather than allowing two specific sections to break FA rules.
Then perhaps you'll all realise the fuckwittery in these kind of threads.
(that's not addressing individual behaviour of stewards, if what is alleged to have happened its unacceptable and I expect he'll pay with his job)
and how is going to do that?
By closing 109.
Can see it coming, by law City can not allow peopke to stand, if the council threaten us with closing sections of the ground, as the Scum got threatened with a few years back, City will have no option.
I am not saying I agree, but standing is not allowed in top flight football, like it or not. The club have turned a blind eye to a few blocks, but can not allow it to spread. The actions of the stewards can not be defended tho.
foley87 said:people do realise that incidents like today will result in the manchester council reducing the allowed allocation of the ground on match days dont you
its going to come to that unless people realise that standing in 106 107 108 isnt allowed. if you want to stand move to the singing sections.