Trouble in the East Stand??

[JoeMercer'sWay]

May not go down well but I propose a boycott of a City game, certainly some form of action until:

-Fletcher is removed from the club in all aspects.
-Showsec's contract is terminated and the new stewards are brought in on a permanent basis in the same areas of the ground and are prohibited from man handling and any violent acts towards supporters.
-The club immediately with consultation from the fans addresses the status of 109 and other blocks and makes it immediately clear whether it is seating or standing, and offers alternative seating for those affected negatively by the decision. I also propose on this that every listed seat holder in 109 hold a vote which decides whether it is standing or seating. The club must also clarify and label on every chart/season ticket package which areas are deemed part of the "singing section" and that this decision is applied consistently and unwaiveringly at all points during that season, bar for any clear changes in seating policy ie. the South Stand move for the Villarreal game.
-The club appointing a new head of security operations who, along with other City staff will have a duty to meet and communicate with City fan representatives who will discuss progress and issues and any emails/calls etc. from fans with issues must be responded to with fairness and neutrality.
-A major overhaul in the smoking ejection policy with a new strategy implemented ie. level 1 gates opened with police and stewards monitoring said opened gates and card readers used to re-admit people into the ground, the club should discuss with the aforementioned City reps on a manageable way forward.
-No ejection resulting in a ban until the security staff give the fan in question the opportunity to appeal and call forward any eyewitnesses as evidence. Ideally a neutral individual should hear the appeal to ensure that blatant backstabbing of fans in favour of keeping the status quo of the security staff happy and in the good books is ended.

Anybody else want to add anything?

What about a petition and a candlelight vigil?

FFS it's our best season for donkeys years and you want people to boycott matches?

it's whether you care about a game of football more than other people getting assaulted and wrongly kicked out because some power crazy egomaniac who has far too much power gets a kick from it?

It's the same old "I'm alright Jack" which leads to these apathetic fans who don't care until the day it happens to them, then they'll woman, and guess what? if you'd make the sacrifice to make a proper stand something could have been done about it.

Same way if fans made proper sacrifices their quests for ticket prices to go down, TV prices to go down, safe standing would be a hell of a lot further down the line.

Instead it's always a load of hot fucking air and posts on a football forum. I, for one, would rather get a change to lead to a fair football club and fair policy than have to put up with the debacle that is currently going on.

 

[Prodigal Son]

If i was a tabloid journo writing my anti-city agenda in the newspaper this week, having read this the headline would be "City yobs plan violence against their own club over refusal to obey rules".

Some of the balls spouted by keyboard ninjas on this thread beggars belief.

Stop talking shit and making a massive fucking drama that's about to drag us through the mud.

It's the same as the smoking shite. You can't do what you fucking please because you want to. Just like you can't have a shit on Kendals floor because you feel like it. They make the rules, if you don't like em, move or don't go. I don't care if they told you it was a "standing" section. If they have now changed their mind, they make the rules. It's shit but it's the "family entertainment business". Anything that's a "standing" section was unofficial anyway as it's an all-seater stadium on the safety certificate.

What happened with Showsec and the coppers on Sat was bullshit and out of order, but these dickheads are just traffic wardens. They don't have an option but to do their job. If a few blokes start telling them to fuck off and they do...where does that leave them?

The Club decide the stewarding policy so filling in some prick of a steward with you and ten of your mates "off CCTV" .seriously you cunts, what the fuck?

There's no point in complaining to the Club about the security being heavy handed when at the first sign of an ejection every twat gets involved. That's why it's heavy handed.

You need to complain to the Club that their policy is wrong, not that it is being carried out harshly. And is it actually wrong for everybody?

The "do what I want" attitude fucks me off because no you fucking won't. It's a football match not a revolution.

I'm in 117 and stand throughout and I like standing. I've also sat elsewhere and not been able to - I mean I could have just stood up regardless but didn't. Life's a woman.

/rant

 

[gaudinho's stolen car]

There can be little sympathy at the end of the day.

This guy was just unlucky that he was picked out, but ultimately, he doesn't have a leg to stand on, literally.

In the video, he is clearly being obstinate and some of his actions, quite laughable.

He is quick to state a heart problem when the flashpoint increases, however, not so serious, that a man of his age can stand up all game and is old enough to know better.

My old man was thrown out for smoking in toilets the other season, must have been 200 in there doing exactly the same.

Means fuck all.

The law is clear, City, nor any other club, are able to enforce it across the board, but they can't be seen to disregrading it.

The whole incident just seems to smack of escalation, sheep followers and those who just wanted to exacerbate it for the sake of mob rule and handbags with police and stewards.

By the same people who spend the majority of the game being so self-aware, they concern themselves more with homophobic chants than watching the game, and giving it the big 'un to rival fans who are separated by police and stewards.

disagree, club's job to enforce their policies clearly and explicitely to supporters.

the fan was also sitting down in these vids and yet was still dragged out when hundreds of other fans were left.

This policy of picking off at random is disgusting and wrong and the GMP nor showsec nor the club have a leg to stand on.

The fan's done fuck all wrong and been assaulted for it.

That's splitting hairs mate, and you know it.

If the club was to enforce their policies, every match would be a war zone. They have to make examples until people get the message.

It's the reason why United's ticket allocation was reduced by City last season, as it was at Liverpool.

It was down to their persistent standing, irrespective of the fact they know they can't throw the other 2,000 out for all doing it.

It's clear Smoking is not allowed, all the same, fans believe a 'safety in numbers' stance will see them all right, make it unenforceable by the letter of the law.

That's down to simple intimidation at the end of the day, which is why City operate snatch-squads.

It's the same with standing and, on this occasion, as I say, the guy did himself no favours by his behaviour to prolong the flashpoint.

As for him sitting down, let's not kid and kidder. He was sat down so they couldn't drag him out easily, same with the dying swan routine.

The guy sat down, surely he was trying to diffuse the "flashpoint". He wanted to watch the rest of the game.

 

[Chungo]

There can be little sympathy at the end of the day.

This guy was just unlucky that he was picked out, but ultimately, he doesn't have a leg to stand on, literally.

In the video, he is clearly being obstinate and some of his actions, quite laughable.

He is quick to state a heart problem when the flashpoint increases, however, not so serious, that a man of his age can stand up all game and is old enough to know better.

My old man was thrown out for smoking in toilets the other season, must have been 200 in there doing exactly the same.

Means fuck all.

The law is clear, City, nor any other club, are able to enforce it across the board, but they can't be seen to disregrading it.

The whole incident just seems to smack of escalation, sheep followers and those who just wanted to exacerbate it for the sake of mob rule and handbags with police and stewards.

By the same people who spend the majority of the game being so self-aware, they concern themselves more with homophobic chants than watching the game, and giving it the big 'un to rival fans who are separated by police and stewards.

Also, I fail to see any hypocrisy in my earlier statement, I'm bemused in fact...

FUCK THAT. Explain this to me. If the twats wanted the block to sit down, why not start going from left to right of the front row, then second row and third and so on? Why pick an old man with heart problems a few rows back? go on....

 

[bernabias home shirt]

May not go down well but I propose a boycott of a City game, certainly some form of action until:

-Fletcher is removed from the club in all aspects.
-Showsec's contract is terminated and the new stewards are brought in on a permanent basis in the same areas of the ground and are prohibited from man handling and any violent acts towards supporters.
-The club immediately with consultation from the fans addresses the status of 109 and other blocks and makes it immediately clear whether it is seating or standing, and offers alternative seating for those affected negatively by the decision. I also propose on this that every listed seat holder in 109 hold a vote which decides whether it is standing or seating. The club must also clarify and label on every chart/season ticket package which areas are deemed part of the "singing section" and that this decision is applied consistently and unwaiveringly at all points during that season, bar for any clear changes in seating policy ie. the South Stand move for the Villarreal game.
-The club appointing a new head of security operations who, along with other City staff will have a duty to meet and communicate with City fan representatives who will discuss progress and issues and any emails/calls etc. from fans with issues must be responded to with fairness and neutrality.
-A major overhaul in the smoking ejection policy with a new strategy implemented ie. level 1 gates opened with police and stewards monitoring said opened gates and card readers used to re-admit people into the ground, the club should discuss with the aforementioned City reps on a manageable way forward.
-No ejection resulting in a ban until the security staff give the fan in question the opportunity to appeal and call forward any eyewitnesses as evidence. Ideally a neutral individual should hear the appeal to ensure that blatant backstabbing of fans in favour of keeping the status quo of the security staff happy and in the good books is ended.

Anybody else want to add anything?

What about a petition and a candlelight vigil?

FFS it's our best season for donkeys years and you want people to boycott matches?

I agree mate...thats got to be the worst fuckin post ever,BOYCOT A GAME is he for fucking real.....clown!

 

[gaudinho's stolen car]

If i was a tabloid journo writing my anti-city agenda in the newspaper this week, having read this the headline would be "City yobs plan violence against their own club over refusal to obey rules".

Some of the balls spouted by keyboard ninjas on this thread beggars belief.

Stop talking shit and making a massive fucking drama that's about to drag us through the mud.

It's the same as the smoking shite. You can't do what you fucking please because you want to. Just like you can't have a shit on Kendals floor because you feel like it. They make the rules, if you don't like em, move or don't go. I don't care if they told you it was a "standing" section. If they have now changed their mind, they make the rules. It's shit but it's the "family entertainment business". Anything that's a "standing" section was unofficial anyway as it's an all-seater stadium on the safety certificate.

What happened with Showsec and the coppers on Sat was bullshit and out of order, but these dickheads are just traffic wardens. They don't have an option but to do their job. If a few blokes start telling them to fuck off and they do...where does that leave them?

The Club decide the stewarding policy so filling in some prick of a steward with you and ten of your mates "off CCTV" .seriously you cunts, what the fuck?

There's no point in complaining to the Club about the security being heavy handed when at the first sign of an ejection every twat gets involved. That's why it's heavy handed.

You need to complain to the Club that their policy is wrong, not that it is being carried out harshly. And is it actually wrong for everybody?

The "do what I want" attitude fucks me off because no you fucking won't. It's a football match not a revolution.

I'm in 117 and stand throughout and I like standing. I've also sat elsewhere and not been able to - I mean I could have just stood up regardless but didn't. Life's a woman.

/rant

Yeah, because going to watch City is like shopping in Kendals. Fuck off shopping you daft ****.

 

[phuzion]

Also, I fail to see any hypocrisy in my earlier statement, I'm bemused in fact...

It is not a surprise to me that you are bemused.

Me neither, he's had it spelled out to him.

No I haven't. I suggested some of the comments in this thread were from brain dead Neanderthals, and then suggested that no one was capable of 'grown up' response. Surely both those statements compliment each other, yet the opposite is suggested...

Anyway, I've said my bit, and this thread is already being ridiculed on many other football forums, so for some dignity, I'm out...

Cheeky Edit:

Prodigal son, I applaud you also. Considering you sit nearby, your opinion is even more valid. At least you grasp the concept.

Edit 2: Chungo, I don't need to answer your question, Tolmie has already done so quite eloquently...

 

[Prodigal Son]

Yeah, because going to watch City is like shopping in Kendals. Fuck off shopping you daft ****.

You really are a silly little gobshite aren't you?

Jesus.

 

[Chungo]

It is not a surprise to me that you are bemused.

Me neither, he's had it spelled out to him.

No I haven't. I suggested some of the comments in this thread were from brain dead Neanderthals, and then suggested that no one was capable of 'grown up' response. Surely both those statements compliment each other, yet the opposite is suggested...

Anyway, I've said my bit, and this thread is already being ridiculed on many other football forums, so for some dignity, I'm out...

Muppet, never answered my question.

 

[Umfoofoo]

I cannot believe what I just saw in the first video... That is an absolute fucking disgrace!!

Surely the steward cunts can see that he is not exactly what you would call a trouble causer. It makes me sick to see something like that, you can hear him say
"leave me alone i haven't done anything... stop screaming at me".
I hope man city officials see this video and how vicious, heavy handed and unfair the stewards are and fucking do something about it.

He has gone to watch man city play football not to be shouted at by some jobsworth cunts!!