Truck Runs into Crowd in Nice

I think it's all the kids that were involved that's really got to me.

Bastard.
 
f*cking disgusting act - the French are soon going to start taking an ultra hard line with anyone who is associated with anything to do with these bunch of animals - and there will be collateral damage all round...
 
I always try to post something coherent after times like this, but I'm lost for words. I really have lost faith with humanity, and the globe. How can people regularly commit such inconceivable atrocities. Thoughts and condolences go out to the people of Nice, and France once again, on a day which was supposed to be a celebration of the Republic's founding principles of Liberty, Equality and Fraternity. At this time, it's these things which are needed the most.

Also, as someone who considers themselves quite liberal and left wing, it's saddening to see people turning to extreme right tendencies and removals of freedom due to fear because of this; which is exactly the aim of these barbarians. It requires, at the moment and throughout, those three virtues to actively stand firm against the threat.
 
inbetween said:
In Syria it is an armed conflict consisting of many parties and all of which want to kill each other. It was in the news a bit ago that one rebel ate the heart of a Syrian government soldier to prove a point, that is the level of hate you are talking without even starting to involve ISIS. The Syrian government in response is killing it's own people by barrel bombing them in case they are rebels and again the rebels want to kill anyone who isn't a rebel, finally ISIS just want to control the country and kill everyone.

Either way there is a very high likelihood you will end up in a fight that will see that your entire family is obliterated. I certainly would not be keeping them there and I would be on the first boat I saw even if it meant drowning anyway.
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You forgot Russia blowing up innocent civilians for the government as well and most probably the Uk and US drone bombing the crap out of eveything
 
west didsblue said:
Yes there is. Better protection of pedestrianised areas - concrete bollards or large vehicles to block access to areas where large crowds congregate. This can't prevent all attacks but it should help prevent mass casualties from this type of attack. Next season I expect that busses won't be allowed down Ashton Old Road along with post match crowds as they do now for example.
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Pedestrian anti terrorist action is indeed required, a trial should start in Norwich, the answer to this problem is that simple, call in Alan Partridge

Banning religion, giving up human rights, blaming Blair,house to house searches,making Saddam a martyr and asking Steve coogan to head up NATO
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Before the ill fated sortie into Iraq, there were 140+ 'Islamic Terror' attacks carried out between 1983-2004, with over 6000 deaths. By all means criticise Blair, Bush and the intelligence services (who lots of people seem to be advocating should get much more power) but do not rewrite history, in regards to how long this has been going on.
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Depending on which of these you choose to believe there are up to a million dead since the invasion in 2003.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War?wprov=sfla1

That's a lot of people who have lost a lot of family, and want someone to take revenge on (just in Iraq). I'm assuming a high proportion of those 160 terror attacks you quoted were carried out on Sunni Muslims by Shia Muslums, or vice versa or Hamas on Israel. Israel has been taking out infrastructure in Syria for years in retaliation, keeping it in the dark ages.

I'm not attempting to re-write anything. But do you think these attacks would be going on if we hadn't destabilised the whole region?

That's rhetorical, I mean one of the men who carried out the Paris attacks said this is for Syria...

We had/have no business being in any of these countries, we're in Syria because we want to bring down Assad! Because what? We think that the people there are going to fall in line and accept democracy and live happily ever after? They are neither ready nor willing.

We will reap what we sow. The way I see it, it was our western governments that have caused this, what we're seeing now is the fall out, which pales in insignificance when we look at the death tolls involved in each respective country.

Nobody (well I'm not) is saying Saddam wasn't evil, I'm saying he was a necessary evil.

I'm under no illusion that we didn't help shape what we're seeing today. I wish it would all go away, but it can't.
 
Alex-MCFC said:
I always try to post something coherent after times like this, but I'm lost for words. I really have lost faith with humanity, and the globe. How can people regularly commit such inconceivable atrocities. Thoughts and condolences go out to the people of Nice, and France once again, on a day which was supposed to be a celebration of the Republic's founding principles of Liberty, Equality and Fraternity. At this time, it's these things which are needed the most.

Also, as someone who considers themselves quite liberal and left wing, it's saddening to see people turning to extreme right tendencies and removals of freedom due to fear because of this; which is exactly the aim of these barbarians. It requires, at the moment and throughout, those three virtues to actively stand firm against the threat.
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Would you be so liberal if it had been your child brutally murdered at the start of his life in the name of a make believe God? I think not.

It's utter horseshit and has no place in Europe. We need a far less tolerant attitude to religious extremism.

How many more times are we going to keep putting French flags on Facebook pictures, lighting candles and saying we can on living as we do - in the meantime innocent children are killed. This bullshit line of this is what they want - sick of hearing it. It's a kop out.
 
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