Truck Runs into Crowd in Nice

Blue Haze said:
Before ISIS I would have been saying the same thing. The Taliban seemed an anomaly to me. It wasn't until ISIS that it became obvious to me that without western intervention, much of the Islamic world would be ruled by something like ISIS. If not the Taliban or ISIS, it would be Muslim Brotherhood, Boko Haram or Al Shabaab.

There are apparently far worse things than western interventionists. In this case, due to the death toll and widespread human suffering, western intervention is completely justified. I 100% support the west in taking out terrorist training camps, funding centers, recruiters, and mosques that are used as bases. Even if those strikes risk innocent people. The Israelis turned out to be right all along.
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someone who agrees with Netanyahu.

errr fuck.
 
EL APACHE TEVEZ said:
It makes me fucking laugh,you've got satellites that can pick an ant up having a shit in the desert,but some how you can't pick up 100's of isis marching into citys in Iraq and Syria.
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You Sir, have not the slightest fookin' clue of how we monitor terrorism, Have a look at how many people it takes to monitor a single person - look at the raw facts, and then come back to me.That statement tells me you have not the slightest clue about anti-terrorism. It's thankfully not your job and hopefully something you should steer clear of. Leave it alone, or otherwise educate yourself please. It would serve you well, and hopefully help anybody else that may take your clueless comments on board.
 
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FanchesterCity said:
I very much doubt that many of the Islamic extremists have attempted peaceful negotiations and this is their last resort.
It seems far more likely this is their first and only resort.

I am sure that many nations have made some grave mistakes on foreign policy decisions, particularly (but not limited to) the Middle East - but Jihadists aren't saying 'please leave our country' they are saying 'you are infidels and should adopt our way of life or die'. They aren't holding up a banner to say 'leave us alone and we'll leave you alone', they fundamentally oppose our way of life, and we fundamentally oppose theirs.

For 99.99% of the rest of the world, we have differences, some of them fundamental, but we can live together - just. We don't want to kill.

An Islamic Jihadist is no different to a member of the KKK or extreme end of the Nazis (as loathsome as Nazis were, some were not in favour of extermination). They are extremists, and in this case of an Islamic bent. But they are extremists first and foremost. Extreme in view and in behaviour.

There's an argument to say they exist to find some cause, not because they have a cause. i.e. If it wasn't Islam, they'd be fighting for some other radical cause.
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Machiavelli said:
Weren't the Paris victims French?
Weren't the Orlando victims American?
Weren't the 7/7 victims Londoners? So why do we care? The reason is we all identify with others all across the world and we see attacks like this against the West and our way of life, so it isn't surprising Muslims from here, or Belgium or France identify with Muslims around the world and the perceived treatment of "their" people and their way of life. It cuts both ways I'm afraid. And they may well have family in some of the countries where we've seen military action against the Muslims or in this case a Muslim who drank, gambled, took drugs and ate pork!
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The one thing they all have in common, is being Muslim of one extreme or another. Until it happens(which it's probably bound to in current circumstances) . If the threat of being blown up by nutters goes away, so might the pisstaking of mohammex. That's a choice.
 
FanchesterCity said:
If there were no Black people in the USA, do you think the members of the KKK would just go about their lives normally? - I don't. I think they'd have found something else to hate.
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I've got it too man, don't let anyone with a tan rent a transit. Phew!! Got a tan you're a wrong un...
 
steviemc said:
You Sir, have not the slightest fookin' clue of how we monitor terrorism, Have a look at how many people it takes to monitor a single person - look at the raw facts, and then come back to me.That statement tells me you have not the slightest clue about anti-terrorism. It's thankfully not your job and hopefully something you should steer clear of. Leave it alone, or otherwise educate yourself please. It would serve you well, and hopefully help anybody else that may take your clueless comments on board.
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Ok james
 
Am I of the minority that thinks that this had nothing to do with terrorism and the fact that this guy had previous mental health issues was the cause of this tragic incident ?
 
DTKOAG said:
Am I of the minority that thinks that this had nothing to do with terrorism and the fact that this guy had previous mental health issues was the cause of this tragic incident ?
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Thinking along those lines myself despite IS claiming it. He obviously wasn't a devout Muslim given his drinking and gambling habits and apparently on medication for mental health issues. Saying that IS probably find people such as him easier to manipulate.
 
DTKOAG said:
Am I of the minority that thinks that this had nothing to do with terrorism and the fact that this guy had previous mental health issues was the cause of this tragic incident ?
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He's a terrorist because he's names Mohammed

When it's a American guy rampaging through college schools and shooting kids. He's just a nutter.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
He's a terrorist because he's names Mohammed

When it's a American guy rampaging through college schools and shooting kids. He's just a nutter.
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Isis have claimed responsibility - there is a problem with terrorism in Tunisia. Stop looking for excuses for them. How many more attacks do you want to happen in France until you accept there is a terrorist problem?!
 
worsleyweb said:
Isis have claimed responsibility - there is a problem with terrorism in Tunisia. Stop looking for excuses for them. How many more attacks do you want to happen in France until you accept there is a terrorist problem?!
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I accept there's a terrorist problem
 
Wonder how it sits with Isis claiming credit for these murders the us nightclub shooting and the nice truck
Then finding out the killers were bisexual something Isis is totally opposed too ??
 
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