Mate I have nearly 8000 posts, I'm not a rag, I'm just telling you a fact and thats that Newton Heath Locomotive Works happened to be part of the L&Y Railway that was not a Yorkshire company but one based in Manchester.bluemanc said:You need to understand that you are being lied to,it's Green & YELLOW.DontLookBackInAnger said:L&Y for it's whole history was based at Manchester Victoria
You bribed players with a promise of a job if they played for you & that's the roots of your club,sorry but it's true.
Sorry mate i never looked at the username,i understand what & why what you are saying has been said for & you are saying the team was not based at NH & that it has no connection to Leeds or Yorkshire,the carriage colours are actually the old colours of Leeds railway carriages that were taken over by Yorkshire Railway & then adopted by LYR & then used by NHLYR until NH dropped the LYR & the colours were then either taken off/or dropped by them.DontLookBackInAnger said:Mate I have nearly 8000 posts, I'm not a rag, I'm just telling you a fact and thats that Newton Heath Locomotive Works happened to be part of the L&Y Railway that was not a Yorkshire company but one based in Manchester.bluemanc said:You need to understand that you are being lied to,it's Green & YELLOW.
You bribed players with a promise of a job if they played for you & that's the roots of your club,sorry but it's true.
Can I ask you, when the Glazers took over could you see them offering deals to 3 players in their late 30s? It like deferring maintenance on a dam, for a number of years it doesn't really matter, no one will notice and then one day you are fucked.Lancashire Blue said:I've said it before and I'll say it again, this rag debt scenario is of no consequence if you ask me. The fact is, they've done more than ok since the Glazers took over, and I can't see anything changing anytime soon. Good players will still want to go there, they will find the money for players somehow, and the creditors will never shut the rags down or get them wound up.
I think it's all nonsense. They could have the debt of a medium sized country (I suppose they have) but it will make no difference to them on the field.
Lancashire Blue said:I've said it before and I'll say it again, this rag debt scenario is of no consequence if you ask me. The fact is, they've done more than ok since the Glazers took over, and I can't see anything changing anytime soon. Good players will still want to go there, they will find the money for players somehow, and the creditors will never shut the rags down or get them wound up.
I think it's all nonsense. They could have the debt of a medium sized country (I suppose they have) but it will make no difference to them on the field.
So you would say our public bid for Milner was to knock the rags out of the running early?Chick Counterfly said:It's an old Arsenal trick. When the supporters get uppity about there not being any serious money spent on players, they start to blame the board. The board make a statement that they have 95m in cash available but forget to point out 75m (or whatever) of that is already earmarked for interest and finance payments or whatever. the press usually fall for this and the fans go away happy.
I could be wrong but my guess is Fergie has around 20-30m to spend, if he sells a couple of fringe players. maybe he could stretch to 40m+ to get two really good youngish players. That's why we put in the early bid on Milner and why we apparently did it so publicly, because they would can't afford to enter a bidding war that starts at 20m. Their only hope was for him to request for a move before any bids were made, and to jump in quickly and agree a fee.