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[mackenzie]

When he was 15 he approached phil to ask him if he could help him to get into telly , being who he is he got him a job on this morning as a runner, it is like a internship which lots of young people do , he was 17 i think . When he was 19 they had a short fling . Phil came out as gay and the man was moved to loose women . It is right he has not been named so the papers cant splash his name and picture everywhere and out him when maybe he is not out , only twitter say he was paid off

Much of the above detail was from itv questioned at the select committe

He wasnt groomed in the way you are suggesting it , you might as well come out an call him a paedo , he clearly is not that else he would be in prison , this is where people prefer a screaming headline and not the detail or context

Anyway , i enjoyed the three docos he has done , last night he said it wad not the affair that he was sacked for, it was explained to him that with his brother being a paedo and jailed that the stigma included him and there was too much bad press about phil being his brother etc

make of that what you will

I get that you like him and enjoyed the show when he was on.
He is very good at presenting. Yet presenting is merely selling a "product" no matter how else it is dressed up.

I just found the whole very public"coming out" thing (with all the tears etc) as cringeworthy, and a desperate charade from a man who was crying for himself and his career just as much as his family.

I couldn't give a sod what his sexuality is, and no I don't think he is a peado. He met that 15 lad at the lad's drama school and was in a position of trust and power when they did become intimate some years later, but there was dialogue between the 2 for some years before that I believe.

With regards to the money here is a quote from the BBC;
"Lawyers for the star have confirmed he later helped pay his former lover's legal fees, as well as compensation for the loss of his job and home.

The arrangement came with a non-disclosure agreement for both sides."

Now how true that is I don't know, but it's certainly more than just a rumour off Twitter/X.

Anyway, I understand why you liked him. So did I once.
Yet that whole affair, and how he handled it (knowing there was more to come out), showed an ugly underbelly to what really was going on. In my opinion.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

I get that you like him and enjoyed the show when he was on.
He is very good at presenting. Yet presenting is merely selling a "product" no matter how else it is dressed up.

I just found the whole very public"coming out" thing (with all the tears etc) as cringeworthy, and a desperate charade from a man who was crying for himself and his career just as much as his family.

I couldn't give a sod what his sexuality is, and no I don't think he is a peado. He met that 15 lad at the lad's drama school and was in a position of trust and power when they did become intimate some years later, but there was dialogue between the 2 for some years before that I believe.

With regards to the money here is a quote from the BBC;
"Lawyers for the star have confirmed he later helped pay his former lover's legal fees, as well as compensation for the loss of his job and home.

The arrangement came with a non-disclosure agreement for both sides."

Now how true that is I don't know, but it's certainly more than just a rumour off Twitter/X.

Anyway, I understand why you liked him. So did I once.
Yet that whole affair, and how he handled it (knowing there was more to come out), showed an ugly underbelly to what really was going on. In my opinion.

What a faff over fuck all. This isnt controversial I hope and isnt meant to be, but gay people dont necessarily meet in conventional ways because they are a minority and it comes with some confusion and awkwardness especially when first coming out and what this stuff is is normal I think. No gay couple met without some drama attached and someone being upset by it I wouldnt have thought. Im resisting the expression fishing in a smaller pond but for want of a better one it will do. I dare say an age gap is common, and awkward encounters common too. Each to their own, who cares. His wife didnt by the sounds and nothing illegal done and let everyone live. If he shagged a 50 yr old woman nobody would have cared, shit happens in marriage as you get along the road and most marriages are the same dont care what anyone says it does. If the worst thing that happened was Holly Wotsit off the telly took the hump then who fucking cares? She will probably get pissed up and jump on a spare cock during the course of her marriage too, it happens. Load of nonsense. And it was homophobic too truth be told

 

[mackenzie]

What a faff over fuck all. This isnt controversial I hope and isnt meant to be, but gay people dont necessarily meet in conventional ways because they are a minority and it comes with some confusion and awkwardness especially when first coming out and what this stuff is is normal I think. No gay couple met without some drama attached and someone being upset by it I wouldnt have thought. Im resisting the expression fishing in a smaller pond but for want of a better one it will do. I dare say an age gap is common, and awkward encounters common too. Each to their own, who cares. His wife didnt by the sounds and nothing illegal done and let everyone live. If he shagged a 50 yr old woman nobody would have cared, shit happens in marriage as you get along the road and most marriages are the same dont care what anyone says it does. If the worst thing that happened was Holly Wotsit off the telly took the hump then who fucking cares? She will probably get pissed up and jump on a spare cock during the course of her marriage too, it happens. Load of nonsense. And it was homophobic too truth be told

They can all do whatever the hell they want, as far as I'm concerned. Just don't befriend kids and keep in contact with them for years, get them a job and then shag them. If that doesn't strike you as a bit creepy then fair enough.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

They can all do whatever the hell they want, as far as I'm concerned. Just don't befriend kids and keep in contact with them for years, get them a job and then shag them. If that doesn't strike you as a bit creepy then fair enough.

Doesnt sound like thats what happened really. Not by design like. Is it weird? Yes to us. Like I said, to a smaller community probably no. And by that I mean the gay community and especially those who work in making telly. Its always been an industry that, again struggling to find the words without offending those who shouldnt be offended for being themselves, are different to most.

 

[mackenzie]

Doesnt sound like thats what happened really. Not by design like. Is it weird? Yes to us. Like I said, to a smaller community probably no. And by that I mean the gay community and especially those who work in making telly. Its always been an industry that, again struggling to find the words without offending those who shouldnt be offended for being themselves, are different to most.

Can certainly agree with some of that.
I think it's a very odd and artificial world, one where if you are very successful for a long time it can be easy to believe you are almost untouchable.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Can certainly agree with some of that.
I think it's a very odd and artificial world, one where if you are very successful for a long time it can be easy to believe you are almost untouchable.

They arent untouchable though, they are accountable and do het held to account. The rights and wrongs get debated but the facts get lost in it

 

[wattle]

What thread is this?

 

[mackenzie]

They arent untouchable though, they are accountable and do het held to account. The rights and wrongs get debated but the facts get lost in it

I don't think the facts in this case were ever really disputed were they?
And I think Schofield tried to manipulate his audience, and I didn't buy it. Maybe that's the nature of the industry though. And I'm definitely a cynic these days.

Also, my reaction to this particular story is probably because of the work that I do; helping 18-24 year olds into work. That often means either their first paid job or in an unpaid work experience placement that hopefully leads to a paid job offer.
I equate what happened in this case to a 19 year old going off on work experience and getting shagged by the 60 year old CEO of the company. Two consenting adults perhaps, but the dynamics in such a disparity of power leaves me very uncomfortable.

 

[mackenzie]

What thread is this?

Sorry. Got a bit sidetracked.
Anyway, I did read they were planning on a TV series about the whole Schofield incident etc so maybe we will be talking about it again at some point ;-)
Not heard anything about it recently though.

 

[Bigga]

Not really watched hospital dramas in a long while, but this show cropped on my timeline; 'Brilliant Minds'.

Got shades of 'House' about it and a heavy dose of young people diversity, but that's okay as they've handled it well.