Two minors suspended by club for offensive chanting at Brighton game | 17 year old charged by GMP (p29)

A 14/15 and 17 year old being charged is pathetic. Why are they the targets of a witch hunt? They're minors. Parents, the club and nothing more could sort this. Instead the witch hunt can twist the headlines and paint City fans as a bunch of Rodney Hunts.

Educate them and don't take their chances of a future away. Not being funny, but Tevez had RIP Fergie on a trophy parade and that received less furore. Not sure the deceased have much voice. The grieving, yes. The Internet? Blown out of proportion. How much detritus can City or any club find on there? I'm sure one of my posts could be taken out of context. Perhaps this one.

The media are glossing over the majority of us Blues and our fairness, by forcing City to show its power over fans. Minor fans. Who didn't say something stupid at that age? Or years after? Or in their 40s? Perhaps we'll all get bans and the club will bring in high-paying replacements, rather than teach people to be less stupid.
 
acton28.blog said:
A 14/15 and 17 year old being charged is pathetic. Why are they the targets of a witch hunt? They're minors. Parents, the club and nothing more could sort this. Instead the witch hunt can twist the headlines and paint City fans as a bunch of Rodney Hunts.

Educate them and don't take their chances of a future away. Not being funny, but Tevez had RIP Fergie on a trophy parade and that received less furore. Not sure the deceased have much voice. The grieving, yes. The Internet? Blown out of proportion. How much detritus can City or any club find on there? I'm sure one of my posts could be taken out of context. Perhaps this one.

The media are glossing over the majority of us Blues and our fairness, by forcing City to show its power over fans. Minor fans. Who didn't say something stupid at that age? Or years after? Or in their 40s? Perhaps we'll all get bans and the club will bring in high-paying replacements, rather than teach people to be less stupid.
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It's the new laws that have come in last few years it's a hate crime to sing something like that and the police can charge you! Don't agree with that but club banning them for a few years and let them mature would have been punishment enough!
 
waspish said:
It's the new laws that have come in last few years it's a hate crime to sing something like that and the police can charge you! Don't agree with that but club banning them for a few years and let them mature would have been punishment enough!
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Can anyone explain to me where this public order offence took place? Was it the singing in the concourse? Or the posting on tiktok?

If it was on the concourse, how could it have created public disorder, as no-one heard or complained about it? And if it was the posting on tiktok shouldn't the person who posted it be in trouble?
 
give it to gordon said:
But surely the person who throw the pot came from a row and seat number, how hard can it be to rewind the cctv ? Then City give the row and seat number to the dippers who than forward the details to City
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Everything about that incident is bewildering when you think about it.

What is the point of CCTV and all seater stadium if it can't identify the seat where that pint pot was thrown from? This is precisely why all seater stadiums were introduced, and still persist today, to ensurec the police can identify and prosecute people for doing things like this.

I was in the Colin Bell 3rd tier and saw it, after City scored I thought the Liverpool fans would chuck things down, so I was looking across their tier when it happened. I thought, "what the hell was that?" and could see the commotion below, so I know roughly where it came from.

Secondly, it's a cashless stadium and you are searched before entering with a metal detector. So they either let a fan in with a large number of coins, or they had a whip round inside the stadium to fill the pot. There must be CCTV footage of this as well.

I suspect the real reason no one was identified was that it would take too much man power from GMP to identify the culprit, so they didn't bother.

I see no reason why a group of City fans shouldn't be able to offer to volunteer and scour through all the footage to try to work out who it was, and identify the seat number.

Additionally, if you throw a missile like this, you know it could kill or cause serious injuries to one or more people, it's bordering on attempted murder at the very least it's wreckless and caused ABH. The Liverpool supporters who were nearby who witnessed it are guilty by association ie joint enterprise.

Now this incident has happened are Newcastle supporters safe in the Lees Lane end below vusiting supporters? Are visiting supporters safe at Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Wolves?

From what I can see (ie the Red Star match), City now have to leave empty seats above or below visiting supporters. This can't be the right way to deal with it, hitting City's revenue and attendances?

Really more effort should be put in to find out who did it. The evidence is there, and if the culprit is not identified and prosecuted it will be repeated, at our stadium or others.
 
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