Two teens die in motorbike crash in Cardiff resulting in riots

Any vehicle in the hands of an unskilled person can be a dangerous machine.
I think to call an e bike powerful is a bit of a misnomer tbh.
What actually caused the accident anyway? It could have been a result of hitting one of the many potholes that blight our roads.
Hitting a bus at speed probably killed them, that and smashing their heads at I’m guessing 15-30 mph into concrete with no helmet.
 
Any vehicle in the hands of an unskilled person can be a dangerous machine.
I think to call an e bike powerful is a bit of a misnomer tbh.
What actually caused the accident anyway? It could have been a result of hitting one of the many potholes that blight our roads.
35 - 40 mph not legal for road use in UK but sold for off roading


 
Hitting a bus at speed probably killed them, that and smashing their heads at I’m guessing 15-30 mph into concrete with no helmet.
Helmets are so important, I once came off my motorcycle doing about 40. A taxi pulled out in front of me from a side street.
I lost control of the bike slid along the road head first into a garden wall. If I had no helmet I'm 100% sure death would've ensued.
I had a broken leg and wrist.
That's why when I see actors like Tom Cruise riding big bike's with no helmet it pisses me off.
 
Helmets are so important, I once came off my motorcycle doing about 40. A taxi pulled out in front of me from a side street.
I lost control of the bike slid along the road head first into a garden wall. If I had no helmet I'm 100% sure death would've ensued.
I had a broken leg and wrist.
That's why when I see actors like Tom Cruise riding big bike's with no helmet it pisses me off.
The 'brain bucket' we knew them as.
Got a ten quid head, get a ten quid helmet.
There was a lad I knew, in his early 20s, called Trevor Oliver.
He was most unfortunate. Rode a Kawasaki KH250 and all the appropriate gear. In the accident which took his life, there wasn't a mark on him, the chin strap on his helmet broke his neck. A freak incident.
R.I.P. Trev.
 
Any kind of two-wheeled vehicle is inherently hazardous and no one will tell me any different.

My late father-in-law was as sensible a man as you could wish to meet, and anything but reckless. When he went out on his motorbike he always had his full kit on and was covered head to foot in leathers, with a quality helmet. He rode with all due care, for example taking up a car space in traffic and never filtering.

Nonetheless, he eventually had an accident. It was not his fault, but that was no consolation when he was lying in a hospital bed with multiple injuries. His wife was told in plain words that he was unlikely to survive.

Fortunately, he did, but he was in far from A1 condition for the rest of his life. Never rode again; he actually bought a Reliant Robin! (He never got a car licence so it had to be a three-wheeler.) That kept him mobile for a bit, but eventually, he had to give up driving.

Someone who rides any type of two-wheel vehicle at high speed (and high speed in this context is not that fast) without any protection for their head is dicing with death. Your head doesn't need to be going very fast when you stick a nut on a tree or a lamppost or the asphalt of the road. Chances are you are a goner. Scraping your limbs and arse along the tarmac can have some pretty unpleasant effects too; it really isn't recommended.

To combine a lack of protection with recklessness is the height of folly. I don't honestly blame the kids. They are kids and when you're a kid you often do stupid, reckless things. I blame the parents for being so indulgent, and for being so dense they can't foresee the potential dangers. You might as well give the kids a handgun and encourage them to play Russian Roulette.
 
From the two videos I have seen it looks like the police weren't chasing them.

These scooters and e bikes are dangerous to the public. I have seen a few of these e bikes around and they are fast no peddling needed. Always young teenagers on them flying through the pedestrian area or the roads.

I dont necessarily trust the police but from what I have seen they dont seem to be chasing and if they are it's not aggressive and are hanging back.
 
These ‘e-bikes’ didn’t have peddles so therefore are not ‘e-bikes’ but e-motorbikes and therefore yo need a helmet, licence etc. I have no doubt the the police van was following them and preparing to pull them up but gave up when the lads went through the cut through. The rest is history. Nutters to get young lads something like that and no protective equipment. The parents should be summoned for negligence at least.
 

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