Txiki Begiristain

[Didsbury Dave]

I missed them because I wasn't comparing signings made by Brian Marwood.

Garry Cook had left before they joined!.

Do ANY of you posters ever do any research before posting your drivvel?

You forgot the mention the 6 or 7 times when Cook was on the back pages for his gaffes and he was the laughing stock of football.

 

[hilts]

I’d much prefer to be on the positive side of the argument than slagging the club from top to bottom. Can’t beat a bit of happy clapping.

I'd much rather not feel the need to choose a side on a football forum. It's quite sad

 

[hilts]

Again, why are you on a forum if you are incapable of reading?

I said he's the most successful.

So why are you talking about who's the best? Begiristain is the most successful DoF while he's been around.



He's won 4 CL's in the last 15 years as well, so again I have no idea what you're talking about.

I was talking about cl under pep and txiki together. You know the bestest ever brought together.

Guess you can't comprehend posts fella

 

[hilts]

It's hard to judge the Director of Football - with unlimited financial backing, 20-20 hindsight, and free of FFP rules - obviously, we could have done far better with our signings (the chief metric IMO of DOF competency); we do however have the manager I most prefer largely due to Txiki - and as far as other club football matters are concerned - court rulings, youth system, marketing, fan relationship, and so on -I sense that these are at least going well if not very well.

Overall, though, I wish that we had better signings as of late - this past window is a COVID-19 aberration - still... we obviously needed a gifted left-back - Ake is a stop-gap - and didn't get one - we needed a successor to Aguero - and didn't get one - Walker, although good/great on defense isn't at all what we need on offense... and we didn't get an offensive RB; we probably need a very aggressive, ball-wining, fast, holding midfielder as an alternative to Rodri (whom I very much like, but who isn't a defensive force) - we failed to sell off several players who aren't making the cut - Mendy, Cancelo, and so forth...

In short, this past transfer window wasn't very good for us - we did sign some players that might prove useful/great - but we failed to recruit in areas we desperately need, and we're still stuck with the sub-par players we had last season at many positions.

Last summer's transfer window was bad too.

Txiki needs to pick it up big time next summer.

Might not be here I sense a change of direction coming. Hopefully sooner than next summer.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Someone is making a name for themselves.......although i suspect it will be at least the 3rd or 4th time they have done so on this forum.

Needy,attention seeking,shite at its finest.

 

[Phil1]

I'd much rather not feel the need to choose a side on a football forum. It's quite sad

I support City and I’m more than happy to argue the toss on a football forum.
Gotta fill my days somehow :-)

 

[MODBlue]

Garry Cook signings made for Manchester City

2008-09 Season he signed: Jo, Tal Ben-Haim, Vincent Kompany, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Pablo Zabaleta, Glauber Berti, Robinho, Wayne Bridge, Craig Bellamy, Nigel de Jong, Shay Given

2009-10 Season he signed: Gareth Barry, Roque Santa-Cruz, Stuart Taylor, Carlos Tevez, Emmanuel Adebayor, Kolo Toure, Sylvinho, Joleon Lescott, Patrick Vieira, Adam Johnson

2010-11 Season he signed: Jerome Boateng, Yaya Toure, David Silva, James Milner, Aleksander Kolarov, Mario Balotelli, Edin Dzeko

2011-12 Season he signed: Gael Clichy, Samir Nasri, Sergio Aguero, Stefan Savic, Owen Hargreaves, Costel Pantilimon

Winter 2011 and Season 2012-13 Players signed were recruited by Brian Marwood as acting DoF, as Garry Cook left in September 2011

Txiki Begiristain signings made for Manchester City

2013-14 Season he signed: Fernandinho, Jesus Navas, Alvaro Negredo, Stefan Jovetic, Martin Demichelis

2014-15 Season he signed: Eliaquim Mangala, Wilfried Bony, Wily Caballero, Fernando, Bruno Zucculini, Frank Lampard, Bacary Sagna

2015-16 Season he signed: Raheem Sterling, Kevin de Bruyne, Fabian Delph, Nicholas Otamendi, Enes Unal, Patrick Roberts, Anthony Caceres, Reuben Sobrino, Florian LeJuene

2016-17 Season he signed: John Stones, Leroy Sane, Gabriel Jesus, Ilkay Gundogan, Claudio Bravo, Nolito, Marlos Moreno, Oleksandr Zinchenko, Pablo Mari, Aaron Mooy, Yangel Herrera, Geronimo Rulli

2017-18 Season he signed: Aymeric Laporte, Benjamin Mendy, Bernardo Silva, Ederson, Kyle Walker, Danilo, Douglas Luiz, Jack Harrison, Olaweyenju Kayode

2018-19 Season he signed: Riyad Mahrez, Ante Palaversa, Phillippe Sandler, Ko Itakure, Daniel Arzani,

2019-20 Season he signed: Joao Cancelo, Rodri, Angelino, Pedro Porro, Zack Steffen, Scott Carson, Ryotaro Meshino

2020-21 Season he signed: Nathan Ake, Ferran Torres, Reuben Dias, Yan Couto, Pablo Moreno, Nahuel Bustos, Issa Kabore

I would have boldend out the first 3 of this seasons signings, but it is too early to tell yet whether or not they have been good signings or not, the others have had time to establish that question.

Players in Bold are good signings IMO made by the club at the time they made them, or did well for what we signed them for, those in none-bold are bad/irrelevant and poor signings IMO for a wide range of reasons, lack of football skills, injury prone, too much spent, signed and never played much etc

But THAT is a full breakdown of ALL signings we made that cost money to purchase (first team or then loaned out) or were free signings made for the first team only.

 

[Phil1]

Garry Cook signings made for Manchester City

2008-09 Season he signed: Jo, Tal Ben-Haim, Vincent Kompany, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Pablo Zabaleta, Glauber Berti, Robinho, Wayne Bridge, Craig Bellamy, Nigel de Jong, Shay Given

2009-10 Season he signed: Gareth Barry, Roque Santa-Cruz, Stuart Taylor, Carlos Tevez, Emmanuel Adebayor, Kolo Toure, Sylvinho, Joleon Lescott, Patrick Vieira, Adam Johnson

2010-11 Season he signed: Jerome Boateng, Yaya Toure, David Silva, James Milner, Aleksander Kolarov, Mario Balotelli, Edin Dzeko

2011-12 Season he signed: Gael Clichy, Samir Nasri, Sergio Aguero, Stefan Savic, Owen Hargreaves, Costel Pantilimon

Winter 2011 and Season 2012-13 Players signed were recruited by Brian Marwood as acting DoF, as Garry Cook left in September 2011

Txiki Begiristain signings made for Manchester City

2013-14 Season he signed: Fernandinho, Jesus Navas, Alvaro Negredo, Stefan Jovetic, Martin Demichelis

2014-15 Season he signed: Eliaquim Mangala, Wilfried Bony, Wily Caballero, Fernando, Bruno Zucculini, Frank Lampard, Bacary Sagna

2015-16 Season he signed: Raheem Sterling, Kevin de Bruyne, Fabian Delph, Nicholas Otamendi, Enes Unal, Patrick Roberts, Anthony Caceres, Reuben Sobrino, Florian LeJuene

2016-17 Season he signed: John Stones, Leroy Sane, Gabriel Jesus, Ilkay Gundogan, Claudio Bravo, Nolito, Marlos Moreno, Oleksandr Zinchenko, Pablo Mari, Aaron Mooy, Yangel Herrera, Geronimo Rulli

2017-18 Season he signed: Aymeric Laporte, Benjamin Mendy, Bernardo Silva, Ederson, Kyle Walker, Danilo, Douglas Luiz, Jack Harrison, Olaweyenju Kayode

2018-19 Season he signed: Riyad Mahrez, Ante Palaversa, Phillippe Sandler, Ko Itakure, Daniel Arzani,

2019-20 Season he signed: Joao Cancelo, Rodri, Angelino, Pedro Porro, Zack Steffen, Scott Carson, Ryotaro Meshino

2020-21 Season he signed: Nathan Ake, Ferran Torres, Reuben Dias, Yan Couto, Pablo Moreno, Nahuel Bustos, Issa Kabore

I would have boldend out the first 3 of this seasons signings, but it is too early to tell yet whether or not they have been good signings or not, the others have had time to establish that question.

Players in Bold are good signings IMO made by the club at the time they made them, or did well for what we signed them for, those in none-bold are bad/irrelevant and poor signings IMO for a wide range of reasons, lack of football skills, injury prone, too much spent, signed and never played much etc

But THAT is a full breakdown of ALL signings we made that cost money to purchase (first team or then loaned out) or were free signings made for the first team only.

...and haven’t we done ok eh! Not won everything on offer for the last decade which some think we should be, but C’est la vie.

 

[MODBlue]

We have Pablo1 yes, but with a large chunk of that 10 year span spent using the nucleus of the players recruited by the previous regime and signed whilst Roberto Mancini was manager.......not bad if you ask me for Cook's legacy to last 10 years and clean up domestically everything on offer at least twice in that time.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Garry Cook signings made for Manchester City

2008-09 Season he signed: Jo, Tal Ben-Haim, Vincent Kompany, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Pablo Zabaleta, Glauber Berti, Robinho, Wayne Bridge, Craig Bellamy, Nigel de Jong, Shay Given

2009-10 Season he signed: Gareth Barry, Roque Santa-Cruz, Stuart Taylor, Carlos Tevez, Emmanuel Adebayor, Kolo Toure, Sylvinho, Joleon Lescott, Patrick Vieira, Adam Johnson

2010-11 Season he signed: Jerome Boateng, Yaya Toure, David Silva, James Milner, Aleksander Kolarov, Mario Balotelli, Edin Dzeko

2011-12 Season he signed: Gael Clichy, Samir Nasri, Sergio Aguero, Stefan Savic, Owen Hargreaves, Costel Pantilimon

Winter 2011 and Season 2012-13 Players signed were recruited by Brian Marwood as acting DoF, as Garry Cook left in September 2011

Txiki Begiristain signings made for Manchester City

2013-14 Season he signed: Fernandinho, Jesus Navas, Alvaro Negredo, Stefan Jovetic, Martin Demichelis

2014-15 Season he signed: Eliaquim Mangala, Wilfried Bony, Wily Caballero, Fernando, Bruno Zucculini, Frank Lampard, Bacary Sagna

2015-16 Season he signed: Raheem Sterling, Kevin de Bruyne, Fabian Delph, Nicholas Otamendi, Enes Unal, Patrick Roberts, Anthony Caceres, Reuben Sobrino, Florian LeJuene

2016-17 Season he signed: John Stones, Leroy Sane, Gabriel Jesus, Ilkay Gundogan, Claudio Bravo, Nolito, Marlos Moreno, Oleksandr Zinchenko, Pablo Mari, Aaron Mooy, Yangel Herrera, Geronimo Rulli

2017-18 Season he signed: Aymeric Laporte, Benjamin Mendy, Bernardo Silva, Ederson, Kyle Walker, Danilo, Douglas Luiz, Jack Harrison, Olaweyenju Kayode

2018-19 Season he signed: Riyad Mahrez, Ante Palaversa, Phillippe Sandler, Ko Itakure, Daniel Arzani,

2019-20 Season he signed: Joao Cancelo, Rodri, Angelino, Pedro Porro, Zack Steffen, Scott Carson, Ryotaro Meshino

2020-21 Season he signed: Nathan Ake, Ferran Torres, Reuben Dias, Yan Couto, Pablo Moreno, Nahuel Bustos, Issa Kabore

I would have boldend out the first 3 of this seasons signings, but it is too early to tell yet whether or not they have been good signings or not, the others have had time to establish that question.

Players in Bold are good signings IMO made by the club at the time they made them, or did well for what we signed them for, those in none-bold are bad/irrelevant and poor signings IMO for a wide range of reasons, lack of football skills, injury prone, too much spent, signed and never played much etc

But THAT is a full breakdown of ALL signings we made that cost money to purchase (first team or then loaned out) or were free signings made for the first team only.

Can't be arsed going into that but the other factor you haven't even mentioned is that in the Cook years there was no FFP and we could spend what we wanted. Chelsea and United weren't spending big either, and Arsenal were in financial trouble after the stadium move. In the Txiki years we were limited in what we could spend and pay in wages and also our competitors were playing catchup.

And you still haven't addressed the point of Cook being the laughing stock of football.