Disagree , think the best example of a false 9 is Peps version of Messi.I get what you're saying, but Torres is playing as close to a real 9 as it gets in play style. His only purpose in the team is to make runs to either score or create spaces behind him (on top of the usual defensive stuff any forward has in the team). He drops deep even less than Aguero did. I saw a pass map and he's barely involved in play.
A false 9 is essentially a midfielder shoehorned up front that can come deep and effectively shift the midfield 10 yards further up the pitch with standard midfield play of their own. That's not Torres.
Not getting a striker in has been a failure. No way anyone can believe otherwise.
Pep pulled off a miracle last season rotating false 9s. It won’t happen again. Especially when everyone else has improved their attacking options.
We needed a striker, have done for 2 years really. And we don’t have one. We were told X is the price and spent 3 months haggling over a fee that was set at the start and wasn’t there to be negotiated down. But we still did anyway. A Sisyphian exercise in futility & again, at best it’s naive from the board…
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree here but Torres is in no way a false 9 as far as I see it. Pep compared him to Vardy and he's as real a forward as it gets.Disagree , think the best example of a false 9 is Peps version of Messi.
It’s a particular position and skill, not a shoe horned midfielder which is what we had last season. Either way Torres playing there is a lot different to what we did last year and his movement will make it hard for defenders to track, and he can finish.
I knew fine well what you meant and answered it accordingly to deal with not winning the champs league.I’m not talking about the team, I’m talking about the left back spot on its own. I do like Zinchenko but against the better sides in showpiece games (and you’re right the CS isn’t a particularly big game, but that particular one was a very intense game, it was all Liverpool second half and Salah gave him a torrid time), he’s been poor defensively.
I think Zinchenko is one of the best short passers of the ball in the team and we’ve won trophies with Delph Danilo Zinchenko and Cancelo filling in at left back. But that’s all they’ve been, filling in. I would like to see a specialist left back signed in the next few windows because there’s more to come from this team if we just get it right in every position.
I do find it funny that posters think we are a better team without Kev. He is the nest midfielder in the world bar none. We are a very very good side without him, but with him we are a great side. He is the only player we have who would walk into any other team in the world, he is that good.
He does not detract from the team, because he works as hard as anyone when we do not have the ball, but when we do have the ball the lad is on another level, he does things most players can only dream off doing. In my opinion he is the greatest player we have had since the King, the only player in his position that comes close is Yaya. Yaya won us trophies through sheer personality, Kev is the same, he has an aura about him that is special.
We are so fortunate to be witnessing so many great players at our club, but when this era is over as it will surely be Kev will have a statue too, because in my mind he is second best ever to the King, that is the highest praise i can ever give a footballer.
That was a result of Tuchel doing his homework on how our defence operates. Can't blame any individuals more than the collective failings.Yeah Zinchenko lost Havertz for the goal, but I was a bit harsh just to blame him, for some reason the defenders all moved to one side of the pitch and left the centre of it free.
Zinchenko works in our system, there's not many good one around atm
Just to be clear I am saying that, in my opinion, we don't have a left back at the club who is top class. In other positions there is no doubt that we have world class players. You said yourself that Zinchenko is a midfield player basically proving my point. He is, for sure, an excellent footballer...but for me he is not the strongest defensively. We also need someone with real pace which I think is crucial for that position. Against most teams it will not matter because we are so dominant in games.Oh boo hoo, Zinchenko in the champions league final wasn't the reason we lost but you knock yourself out whining about it costing us.
I'll look at the current trophy cabinet and smile.
The list was left backs to play for us, Zinchenko is a midfielder but already way better than Mendy at left back, I thought a man who knows left backs would understand that, man, you have disappointed me again.
ps Sancho lol
to be clear it was the 'costing us' part that I was replying to tbh.Just to be clear I am saying that, in my opinion, we don't have a left back at the club who is top class. In other positions there is no doubt that we have world class players. You said yourself that Zinchenko is a midfield player basically proving my point. He is, for sure, an excellent footballer...but for me he is not the strongest defensively. We also need someone with real pace which I think is crucial for that position. Against most teams it will not matter because we are so dominant in games.
If you think he is the best left back we can get then that's fine by me. We obviously both want the very best for City.
Finally I am disappointed that you are so disappointed with me but one day in the future I hope that may change...haha!!!.