Txiki Begiristain

blueinsa said:
Another who is stuck in the jungle fighting a war long since over.
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The only person stuck in the jungle on this forum fella is you.
You really are defending the indefensible and blaming the criticism on bitterness against the sacking of Mancini?
Get a life. Really mate - get a fucking life!
 
blueinsa said:
What part of Pep Guardiola is replacing Manuel Pellegrini this summer dont some of you get?

What part of Ferran and Txiki are almost solely responsible for us getting the worlds best manager dont you get?

This thread is all about what he did to Bob and has got fuck all to do with today or this season and its certainly not based on what he has managed to secure from this summer onwards.

I will stick to blind faith and you can fight yesterdays battles.
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He deserves to be criticised for the costly bags of shite he's been behind purchasing. We can praise him to for getting pep.
 
The board must take full responsibility for this. They also now have to think what that means to Pep and the club if we miss out on top four. What would that mean for player recruitment. Pellers should have gone at the of last season and a caretaker put in charge as we could all see the writing on the wall for this season. Peps going to spend 3 years just trying to rebuild the team and get that winning mentality back. There is no guarantee that Pep will be successful in the premier league. The appointment in three years time may well be more important than this one, having someone who can then take that rebuilt team onwards. What an absolute mess and the board really do have questions to answer if we miss out on top four. Pity there is nobody out there now that could take us through until the end of the season.
 
blueinsa said:
What part of Pep Guardiola is replacing Manuel Pellegrini this summer dont some of you get?

What part of Ferran and Txiki are almost solely responsible for us getting the worlds best manager dont you get?

This thread is all about what he did to Bob and has got fuck all to do with today or this season and its certainly not based on what he has managed to secure from this summer onwards.

I will stick to blind faith and you can fight yesterdays battles.
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Now I might retract saying you are a good poster from my previous oust after this post!

This thread is not about what he did to Bob at all, that is a terrible argument of the level I'd expect from the likes of Billy Shears, not you!

It's about questioning the decline in our squad and the seemingly lack of bollocking Pellegrini gets for making mistake after mistake. Okay he may well have seen the ultimate bollocking by getting the sack at the end of the season. But week-to-week, where is the direction coming from for the continual mistakes?

You cannot keep coasting by because we have Guardiola coming in six months because what's he going to be left with? A fed up bunch of players, a squad shot of confidence, a Europa League team?
 
Brookers said:
The only person stuck in the jungle on this forum fella is you.
You really are defending the indefensible and blaming the criticism on bitterness against the sacking of Mancini?
Get a life. Really mate - get a fucking life!
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Don't bother pal, @blueinsa must be playing devils advocate or just a plain and simple WUM.
 
We've bought a series of quality players then proceeded to play them in roles that don't suit them, it's maddening but the problem isn't the recruitment, it's the managers for not playing to the players strengths. Can't blame Txiki for that, other than for not binning Pellegrini in the summer. You don't want the DoF interfering with the managers tactics or anything like that, but the pursuit of Pep clearly was the main reason why Pellegrini stayed on and we've essentially sacrificed a season for the greater good, now we just have to hope that the sacrifice isn't too large and the reward makes up for it.
 
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KippaxCitizen said:
Goalkeepers- fine

Left backs- older and worse then they were, not been upgraded, we're worse off

Right backs- older and worse than they were, not been upgraded, we're worse off

Centre halves- Kompany has become injury prone and his partners have been very inconsistent. Are we any better off than when Kompany and Lescott were a rock together?

Defensive mid- Yaya is declining thus our entire gameplan is declining. Fernandinho does nowt when Yaya isn't there, Fernando is average, Delph is good but gives the ball away for fun. Are we better than when we had Barry de Jong and when Yaya was one of the best midfielders in the world?

Attacking mid- Silva has a chronic injury and has declined, Nasri has been out a long time, we signed de Bruyne. We have improved in this area really as we have depth with Sterling and Navas who aren't particularly great but are good for squad players.

Forwards- we once had Kun Tevez Džeko and Balotelli, then Kun Negredo Džeko and Jovetić, we now have Kun Bony and Iheanacho...that's a serious decline!

Fringe players/youth- well, he doesn't even force Pellegrini to play Iheanacho when he should be and other than Chelsea in the FA Cup we've not seen any of them. Why have we not seen Manu García when de Bruyne Nasri and Silva have been injured? So we can't really comment on fringe and youth players.

How can you say this squad hasn't dropped in quality
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blueinsa said:
What part of Pep Guardiola is replacing Manuel Pellegrini this summer dont some of you get?

What part of Ferran and Txiki are almost solely responsible for us getting the worlds best manager dont you get?

This thread is all about what he did to Bob and has got fuck all to do with today or this season and its certainly not based on what he has managed to secure from this summer onwards.

I will stick to blind faith and you can fight yesterdays battles.
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If Txiki keeps buying shit for managers to work with then Jesus Christ couldn't even help us.

What Pep thinks of Bony and Fernando God only knows.
 
He has been as shite as half his signings bar the Pep one. It's like a salesman who is looking a bit Ropey and then pulls the rabbit out of the hat and keeps his job.
 
Blueinthe USA like Billy Shears are a pair of WUM's, Soriano has done a good job but Begiristain considerably less so and don't get me started on the zombie who picks the team, Mancini was far superior but bloody hell even Alan Ball and Jimmy Frizzell given the resources would do as good a job as the fraud from Santiago. This clown has taken us backwards and we are in serious danger on but getting top four while he remains, if things don't go to plan next Sunday I can see the anger today being a storm in a teacup in comparison.
 
Benarbia said:
If I was Pep if think about having that sabbatical rather than coming here. More than major surgery needed
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and then we have people come on here and say that 2-3 signings will be enough because you know pep will make the rest of them play like their lifes depends on that when the truth is that this set of players we have right now bar 3-4 are finished at a high level/simply aren t good enough for this club....for us to have a great shot at title next season i will say we need at least 6 new players who can get into first XI straight away....and for the life of me and with all my respect for silva i can t see being part of a pep team doesn t look like one
 
KippaxCitizen said:
Goalkeepers- fine

Left backs- older and worse then they were, not been upgraded, we're worse off

Right backs- older and worse than they were, not been upgraded, we're worse off

Centre halves- Kompany has become injury prone and his partners have been very inconsistent. Are we any better off than when Kompany and Lescott were a rock together?

Defensive mid- Yaya is declining thus our entire gameplan is declining. Fernandinho does nowt when Yaya isn't there, Fernando is average, Delph is good but gives the ball away for fun. Are we better than when we had Barry de Jong and when Yaya was one of the best midfielders in the world?

Attacking mid- Silva has a chronic injury and has declined, Nasri has been out a long time, we signed de Bruyne. We have improved in this area really as we have depth with Sterling and Navas who aren't particularly great but are good for squad players.

Forwards- we once had Kun Tevez Džeko and Balotelli, then Kun Negredo Džeko and Jovetić, we now have Kun Bony and Iheanacho...that's a serious decline!

Fringe players/youth- well, he doesn't even force Pellegrini to play Iheanacho when he should be and other than Chelsea in the FA Cup we've not seen any of them. Why have we not seen Manu García when de Bruyne Nasri and Silva have been injured? So we can't really comment on fringe and youth players.

How can you say this squad hasn't dropped in quality?
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I think many of the issues you raise are to do with the squad ageing, especially the full backs and a few of our stalwarts; so Kompany, Silva, Zaba, Yaya. You don't get rid of players like that lightly and it's natural for a group of players follow the trajectory ours have.That's fair enough in my opinion. If Txiki got rid of players on a whim, Vinny who looks almost back to his best, probably wouldn't be here now.

The other issues like inconsistency, what appears to be poor defending from the midfield back, and an unwillingness to take chances on youth will be addressed by the new manager. Players like Otamendi, Mangala, de Bruyne and Sterling will start to look worthy of their fees. I think there is a lot of quality there. Otamendi and Mangala are better than Lescott and Nastasic/Kolo, Dinho is better than Barry (though he was a great player for us), Delph and Fernando are competent if not brilliant, much like de Jong. Can't blame anyone for Nasri as he's been injured most of the season. Up front I agree, we look light. Bony has not been an improvement on Dzeko but as we all know he has had a pretty serious illness so it's harsh to blame anyone for that. Sterling and de Bruyne are not only a huge improvement on Sinclair/Jovetic but add a bit more flexibility to the squad as they could both be used as strikers in an emergency.

I can understand people thinking the squad has declined, given the performances we're seeing, but I honestly believe that squad of players is superior to previous years when we won it. A slightly less suicidal approach to defending, a bit of confidence instilled by the new manager, and a few additions... we'll tear the premier league a new one next season.
 
philiph20 said:
Blueinthe USA like Billy Shears are a pair of WUM's, Soriano has done a good job but Begiristain considerably less so and don't get me started on the zombie who picks the team, Mancini was far superior but bloody hell even Alan Ball and Jimmy Frizzell given the resources would do as good a job as the fraud from Santiago. This clown has taken us backwards and we are in serious danger on but getting top four while he remains, if things don't go to plan next Sunday I can see the anger today being a storm in a teacup in comparison.
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Ball would get Barca relegated he was that useless. But I do think you could make a case for Keegan or Sven getting at least the same or more out of this group of players than the engineer has done.
 
Fernando - crap.
Garcia - crap.
Mangala - crap.
Sterling - jury still out.
Bony - crap.
Otamendi - jury still out.
Sagna, Fernandinho and KDB - good signings.
Cabellero - crap.
Navas - average.
Jovetic - crap.
Delph - crap.

And most of all, Pellegrini - CRAP.
 
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