UAP/UFO thread - Non-Human Intelligences

denislawsbackheel said:
Any dick who thinks faster than light travel is possible should stick to Dr. Who.
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I dunno man, there's a lot of stuff we don't really get. I mean quantum entanglement could be considered faster than light if you consider the transfer of information 'travel.'

We don't really know a great deal about spacetime, definitely not enough to say with any certainty either way. In this instance I prefer to remain hopeful that we'll figure it out one day.
 
argyle said:
Most of the reports, sightings of UFO's that cause so much speculation, tend to be new military aircraft.

Imagine people/other military/commercial pilots etc in the 50's -70's spotting the Valkarye, the Blackbird, the Nighthawk, the Stealth Bomber. These planes were faster and less conventional than other aircraft.

That's before the introduction of drones, some of which don't have wings but are v-shaped but look disc shaped at certain angles. They also don't need to worry about the affects on pilots of extreme manoevers.

So I imagine this was a military aircraft too.
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Where is it now then? If that technology was around in 2004 I’m fairly certain 19 years later it would be available now.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
Any dick who thinks faster than light travel is possible should stick to Dr. Who.
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That’s like someone in the Stone Age saying we’d never be able to fly to the moon.

We’re an incredibly young civilisation and our entire computing technology has been developed in the life time of people who post on this forum.

We can’t even begin to comprehend what technology could exist in thousands of years.
 
HelloCity said:
That’s like someone in the Stone Age saying we’d never be able to fly to the moon.

We’re an incredibly young civilisation and our entire computing technology has been developed in the life time of people who post on this forum.

We can’t even begin to comprehend what technology could exist In thousands of years.
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flying cars for everyone? I was promised that in the 60's the lying cunts
 
argyle said:
Most of the reports, sightings of UFO's that cause so much speculation, tend to be new military aircraft.

Imagine people/other military/commercial pilots etc in the 50's -70's spotting the Valkarye, the Blackbird, the Nighthawk, the Stealth Bomber. These planes were faster and less conventional than other aircraft.

That's before the introduction of drones, some of which don't have wings but are v-shaped but look disc shaped at certain angles. They also don't need to worry about the affects on pilots of extreme manoevers.

So I imagine this was a military aircraft too.
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Cool theory but nothing to actually back it up, certainly there has been cases

The truth behind it, is probably more bizarre than this section of the forum can handle

To quote Sherlock Holmes (again)

‘…it is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts…’
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halfcenturyup said:
General physics as we know it now, yes. I am not so sure as others that we won't discover new scientific fundamentals in the next 1,000 years that turn everything about space travel on its head.

Pretty arrogant to assume we know everything now.
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Look how far humans have advanced, from making fire to landing on the moon, the physics we know could be absolutely primitive to a far advanced race.
 
argyle said:
General physics.

The distance between even the closest star is immense and even getting to lightspeed would create problems that would render interstellar travel as close to impossible as can be.
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Yes, for living creatures. And for classic travels through space.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
The Fermi paradox is that
if space is teeming with civilisations

Where are they…
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Things like this are trotted out as if they are evidence of the absence of extraterrestrial life. They aren't.

There are plenty of discussions to be had around the apparent paradox that can reconcile the presence of extraterrestrial life and the lack of contact.

None of these discussions can prove there is extraterrestrial life, but the "paradox" doesn't prove there isn't extraterrestrial life either. It's just a method of stimulating scientific debate.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Things like this are trotted out as if they are evidence of the absence of extraterrestrial life. They aren't.

There are plenty of discussions to be had around the apparent paradox that can reconcile the presence of extraterrestrial life and the lack of contact.

None of these discussions can prove there is extraterrestrial life, but the "paradox" doesn't prove there isn't extraterrestrial life either. It's just a method of stimulating scientific debate.
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I don’t think anyone says it’s evidence of an absence of life, or even other intelligent life within this universe. What it says is if there is other life similar to ours the absence of any evidence means it’s at best very rare.
People guess it’s possible in the future we may be able to travel to other solar systems or other galaxies even, but it’s just that,a guess at the moment we haven’t even sent a probe out of our solar system.
I’d say it’s equally as likely if not more that travel between galaxies and maybe even stars in the same galaxy just won’t be possible in the lifespan of any intelligent species.
 
Fernster said:
This has already been proven to be a fake.
When inspecting the bones they are made up from different species and are the wrong way round.
Arm bones have been used for leg bones and vice versa.
Left and Right legs do not match, bone structure, lengths, etc
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Maybe aliens are composed of jimble jamble? Broaden you minds to the possibilities of recycled biology. For example, He/She/It could have started with proper arms and legs but due to some accident an arm had to be replaced and only a leg was available due to a galactical shortage of arms. And the opposite demand and supply megamacroeconomic situation could have been tru when he needed a decent leg. We just don't have the facts. Yet.
 
blueparrot said:
Yes we do know, anything else is just science fiction immagining.
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By your own logic and previous comments, there is no evidence that there is nothing. Therefore, no we don't know. Which is what the science fiction is then based on. Otherwise, it wouldn't be science fiction.
 
blueparrot said:
Yes we do know, anything else is just science fiction immagining.
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We didn't know there were dinosaurs on earth, up until we discovered their remains, less than 200 years ago. We didn't know entire civilisations existed, till we discovered them.

We didn't know what oil was, until we discovered it. Or gold. Or copper.

Or other continents, with people on them.

We discover new species of plants and animals all the time.

I knew there were no slaters in my garen. Till I lifted this particular rock and there were hundreds of them.
 
Coatigan said:
We didn't know there were dinosaurs on earth, up until we discovered their remains, less than 200 years ago. We didn't know entire civilisations existed, till we discovered them.

We didn't know what oil was, until we discovered it. Or gold. Or copper.

Or other continents, with people on them.

We discover new species of plants and animals all the time.

I knew there were no slaters in my garen. Till I lifted this particular rock and there were hundreds of them.
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All of which came from earth , this is talking about inter galaxy or inter stellar travel visiting earth and leaving stuff behind, which would leave elecrto magnetic evidence, we can look back to the big bang those signals hanging around the solar system would stand out like a sore thumb.
Therevmay be stuff out in deep space we haven’t found, there is nothing in our back yard.
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blueparrot said:
I don’t think anyone says it’s evidence of an absence of life, or even other intelligent life within this universe. What it says is if there is other life similar to ours the absence of any evidence means it’s at best very rare.
People guess it’s possible in the future we may be able to travel to other solar systems or other galaxies even, but it’s just that,a guess at the moment we haven’t even sent a probe out of our solar system.
I’d say it’s equally as likely if not more that travel between galaxies and maybe even stars in the same galaxy just won’t be possible in the lifespan of any intelligent species.
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Voyager left the solar system in 2012 and is now 15 billion miles from Earth
 
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