LoveCity said:Dortmund will almost definitely move into Pot 3 next season as they were near the top of Pot 4. So a group of death next season may be less likely because I'm finding it hard to think which teams that make you say 'oh fookin' hell, how are they in Pot 4?' could qualify and be there next season. Napoli would also be Pot 3 if they qualify.
GoMancini7 said:LoveCity said:Dortmund will almost definitely move into Pot 3 next season as they were near the top of Pot 4. So a group of death next season may be less likely because I'm finding it hard to think which teams that make you say 'oh fookin' hell, how are they in Pot 4?' could qualify and be there next season. Napoli would also be Pot 3 if they qualify.
Anji Mahackala? They will be Pot 4. And we maybe leaough on them but Hiddink is doing a great team there with many good players they are leading the Russain league ahead of like Zenit, CSKA.
And Zenit, CSKA, Anji are like Dinamo Kijev just a huge upgrade on them in squad talent and in manager's skill.
I'm sure if Anji will be the hardest team in Pot 4 they will be with us in the group.
Marvin said:It doesn't. We had this last year. The points available in the Europa League are not significant. Irrelevant.
Not interested myself in the co-efficients and where we place.
Real Madrid are top seeds, so are Arsenal. They are both beatable. The best team in our Group was Dortmund. I think they came from Pot 3
LoveCity said:GoMancini7 said:LoveCity said:Dortmund will almost definitely move into Pot 3 next season as they were near the top of Pot 4. So a group of death next season may be less likely because I'm finding it hard to think which teams that make you say 'oh fookin' hell, how are they in Pot 4?' could qualify and be there next season. Napoli would also be Pot 3 if they qualify.
Anji Mahackala? They will be Pot 4. And we maybe leaough on them but Hiddink is doing a great team there with many good players they are leading the Russain league ahead of like Zenit, CSKA.
And Zenit, CSKA, Anji are like Dinamo Kijev just a huge upgrade on them in squad talent and in manager's skill.
I'm sure if Anji will be the hardest team in Pot 4 they will be with us in the group.
I recently watched them against Liverpool and they were a slow, boring, and horrible team to watch. That said, I'm sure they'll spend a lot of money if they qualify for the Champions League but I wouldn't fear them at all like I do Dortmund and Napoli. Since they play with so little pace I don't think we would struggle against them unless they have a stylistic overhaul between now and then.
Yeah, they picked up 34 coefficient points last season, more then even Chelsea. Even though the CL awards more points then the EL for progressing through the competition, draws are only 1 point and wins are 2, and Chelsea drew a lot of their matches (including the CL final, penalty shoot-out results are ignored), while Atletico won most of theirs.cibaman said:|I thought i'd read that atletico picked up about 30 points after winning the el. is that not true?
SWP's back said:Really? Even though what we picked up replaced a blank year?BillyShears said:SWP's back said:Yeah pot 1 is still some way off but it is unlikely we could get such and appalling group every year.
Plus unless I am mistaken, we will receive some more points for just being in the CL at a later date don't we?
Mate, you've got your calculations all wrong, and, European competitions aren't over. So whilst we're done collecting points for this season, Dortmund, Malaga, etc. are going to continue to collect them.
We're moving back to Pot 3 as almost nailed on certainty now. It's a big shame and a big problem come the draw next summer.
If that's true then my apologies.
JoeMercer'sWay said:It's very simple.
Napoli managed it, Dortmund managed it. Why? because they played better than us.
We'll always get a group of death until we start earning UEFA enough money to warrant favours in the draw, so we have to get on with it and actually play well in the bleeding thing.