I think these hearings are always held in private with no obligation for anyone to publicise any detailed evidence. It's not an open court case. Someone on here may know better. Either way the best outcome would be City being cleared and then holding a full disclosure press conference. We need to lance this boil.
City are playing the long game so not having the press in attendance may not be a bad thing. If the long game is the case then this CAS hearing is something City have to go through to justify a court hearing. If CAS uphold the ban and fine I believe City will be heading to the European or Swiss courts and if any leaks occur before a court case, like they did with the New York Times and others, before and during IC and AC hearings then I believe the balance tips in Citys favour.
I thought I had read that we also agreed that the Press/Media should not be in attendance?
Seems the wrong move, if true, if the evidence is irrefutable to strike back as those who have sullied our reputation.
Could we ask for any ban or fine to be suspended if we lodge an appeal to the courts. I know we are all speculating anyway but its a good way to spend a few hours.;)Maybe, but if we end up in the Swiss court, in reality, we have lost as the ban for next year will kick in and we potentially may lose key players.
It is CAS or bust I think in all honesty.
Maybe, but if we end up in the Swiss court, in reality, we have lost as the ban for next year will kick in and we potentially may lose key players.
It is CAS or bust I think in all honesty.
Could we ask for any ban or fine to be suspended if we lodge an appeal to the courts. I know we are all speculating anyway but its a good way to spend a few hours.;)
If we end up in Swiss Court then everything is up in the air. No-one can say for sure we would win and have FFP (sic) declared illegal
With the press we get, you really want to give them access? I said the other day, we could wipe the floor with uefa, but if anything remotely embarrassing or semi controversial came out, they'd have a field day at our expense.
There are very few occasions( if any ) when in a criminal trial people make their defence public in advance of the trial beyond saying "I am innocent" to do so would be stupid.In other words they make us look guilt for about 5 mins and then say at the end one sentence that we deny wrong doing to which everyone non city fan says they would wouldn’t they
hardly impartial or informative. Seems we are being punished by the leaks and by the fact we are not leaking our defense
I am fairly sure that when there is a criminal case people often put there defense in public with few exceptions for example I was not there etc
People on here are using publicly available information which journalists should be reporting and could do without speaking to city and breaking any confidentiality. People posting it might be wrong in thinking it will get us off but they are not wrong in terms of the facts and it’s near impossible to imagine that it won’t be our defense that for example Etihad is not related party is not owned by the sheik was considered fair value
How does that balance with the love for City in the press.Maybe, but if we have irrefutable evidence and UEFA have not followed the appropriate processes I think they would be the losers. There is little love for UEFA in the press.
Maybe, but if we have irrefutable evidence and UEFA have not followed the appropriate processes I think they would be the losers. There is little love for UEFA in the press.
I interpreted "in the first instance" as we will go as far as we can to clear our name and that meant to a higher authority than UEFA or CAS.If we win uefa are the losers anyway. No need to play this out in the media, if we win I'm sure we'll get our story out. CAS will also release it's findings..
Bit off tangent here but I keep thinking about "in the first instance" can't make my mind up if it's a threat, or if we are going after them even if we win.
I interpreted "in the first instance" as we will go as far as we can to clear our name and that meant to a higher authority than UEFA or CAS.
They charged us on the last possible day up until that point we do not have to provide anything as until we are charged we are not deemed to have done anything wrongI too wondered if this would be seen negatively. I'm not sure of the timescale between when we were informed of the charge and the 5 year deadline but we are, of course, entitled to spend adequate time collecting the required evidence to defend ourselves. The greater the charged offence, the greater our need. Retrospectively, as 2 years is a huge ban, surely we were entitled to spend significant time in compiling our defence and we can't have been expected to rush things through because UEFA were getting too close to the deadline.
If we win uefa are the losers anyway. No need to play this out in the media, if we win I'm sure we'll get our story out. CAS will also release it's findings..
Bit off tangent here but I keep thinking about "in the first instance" can't make my mind up if it's a threat, or if we are going after them even if we win.
If we introduce evidence at CAS it will not be bound by confidentiality clauses. The idea that it would be is quite frankly beyond stupid
They charged us on the last possible day up until that point we do not have to provide anything as until we are charged we are not deemed to have done anything wrong
Yeah, the notion that we’re going to bring the whole organisation crashing to the ground seems a bit far fetched. Overturning the ban is the sole aim here.Imo the belief on here that we might expose them is a bit of wishful thinking.
If we win uefa are the losers anyway. No need to play this out in the media, if we win I'm sure we'll get our story out. CAS will also release it's findings..
Bit off tangent here but I keep thinking about "in the first instance" can't make my mind up if it's a threat, or if we are going after them even if we win.
The time allowed is supposed to be reasonable. If delay is part of the case, rest assured that our team will argue this point.There would be a deadline for submission we were either within that or not simple really