UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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They are out to destroy us. Forget a fine or the 2 year ban, this is an all out attempt to put us so far back it will make it so difficult to catch up again with those clubs who are behind it all.

They are not turning up with an e-mail and some no win, no fee solicitor in tow and we will have a huge fight on our hands to defeat these fuckers.

If the cartel get their way the Vultures eyeing up our corpse (The PL) will ensure we can't compete for some considerable time, this could mean either way more than a straightforward ban unless it's total exoneration.

I am however stocking up on toilet roll because of the coronavirus and am not the most optimistic of people.
 
Will all come down to the judges personal feelings and affiliations this.
If purely on a legal and fairness basis we prevail, but it probably won't be.
Don't have to look far from our own supreme court to realise this.
Bluinsa is correct, a huge fight on our hands.
 
...The idea the emails in the article are doctored seems like wishful thinking as well....
Don't agree. Seems obvious to me they must be if by 'doctored' we mean set in a false context intended to misrepresent their true meaning and with key identifiers and timelines removed to enable that construction. For example their crucial misidentification of the "HH" referred to in Pearce's email.
 
A fair comment defence (usually used for opinion articles like that by Syed) can only succeed if what is published is fair, balanced, and accurate. A lot of articles have not fulfilled any of these criteria. It is a tactical judgement call for City but I have no doubt we could take some people to the cleaners if we wanted to. Some journalists also seem to have operated with malicious intent and have stupidly left content on their social media accounts which leaves them wide open.
There's nothing wrong with robust fair comment. Funnily enough I think we would struggle with a case against Matthew Syed because he is legally entitled to compare City fans to "vicious rats." That's his opinion.
But a lot of stories have essentially accused City of false accounting (presumably based on a misinterpretation of a few stolen emails). Unless that allegation is true then it is clearly libellous not just towards City but also to our auditors and accountants. Not identifying a clear culprit makes it worse because the publisher could be hit by multiple claims.
The public interest defence is not likely to succeed with private business information. This is not the same as when the MPs' expenses scandal was revealed after information was stolen and sold to the Daily Telegraph. That was public money being abused by elected politicians and clearly in the public interest.
You may well be right, but I don't think we will sue the press. Next time some of these bastards turn up at the Etihad, give them a verbal pasting and no lunch.
 
The charge always levelled against Montgomery was that he was too cautious, only fighting battles when he knew the odds were heavily in his favour and incapable of exploiting opportunities on the battlefield itself. At El Alamein the Axis forces had over-extended themselves whereas we had short supply lines and time to build up our forces. Even then he struggled and it took two attempts to achieve the crucial breakthrough.

I'd say it was more like our Stalingrad, where the Russians really had their backs to the wall and were forced back to the banks of the Volga. They were just about hanging on but were saved by a major operation that hit the weak flanks of the German armies, far behind the front and cut off the 6th Army from the rest of the Germans to the south and west of Stalingrad. Then they turned inwards and destroyed the pocket of German forces that were left. I'd say this was more our Stalingrad than El Alamein.

Stalingrad was mainly down to Winter coming and the Germans not having the right clothing for the snows and average - 6 temps. The supply lines just couldn't get through.

I digress.
 
If CAS cleared City of all charges and we had the chance to sue One and only one organisation or person who would you choose from. United, Liverpool, Bayern, Gill, Tebas, Leterme, Simon Jordan, Der Spiegel ,Daily Mail.

Liverpool though it’s close with the rest.
 
mate I live in Australia and opposition fans have the same feeling about city here. It’s crazy. We city fans go into depth of FFP, what it means and the media bias towards us but to them they only see the surface. You think Liverpool, United arsenal fans etc give 2 fucks to go in depth on what’s going on with City. The narrative is set. I really really hope that if we smash this in CAS we go after the fuckers who I believe designed this smear campaign. It’s so obviously blatant to those blues that spend enough time investigating this. We need to go back and hit hard
You have to be cocky and say - f course we cheated FFP. Ae'll do it again. Cheating FFP is humanity thing.
 
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