UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[John Wayne]

I can’t see how info already in their possession from years ago can add weight to their case. That is what led to the settlement agreement in 2014 and they can’t just decide to use that to further punish us can they? Surely it has to be fresh info they weren’t aware of at the time, ie: the e-mails in the DS articles, plus there could be something else that we’re not aware of.

Soriano's interview after the UEFA verdict implied that the decision was largely, if not totally, predicated on what was published in Der Spiegel. The club has repeatedly cited "out of context emails" as being the basis for the decision. Following the settlement, UEFA had three years of scrutinising every aspect of our finances. What is very unusual is that the infraction is supposed to have happened over a four-year period that pre and post-dates the settlement. I cannot see how they have managed to obtain any further evidence against us. The cynic in me suggests that the IC has tried to make the evidence fit a crime that does not exist. The settlement was agreed because of matters unresolved. I think that they have looked into the unresolved matters and fabricated a violation. City's bullish language about Leterme's handling of the investigation makes no secret of the club's disdain for the integrity of the IC. When you read that Leterme deliberately mishandled PSG's case to reach the statute of limitations, coupled with Rick Parry coincidentally jumping ship to the EFL before CAS could pass judgement, you realise that something may not be right.

City's statement spoke of a wish to seek independent arbitration. It could well be that we withdrew from the process, leaving the AC no choice but to hit us hard. There are serious issues surrounding the impartiality of the CFCB and we perhaps chose not to dignify it.

It also appears that there is a lot of internal disagreement between the independent actors at UEFA (Ceferin) and those with vested interests. I believe that we do have friends at UEFA but these people are under immense pressure from a very powerful cartel of clubs.

No CAS arbitrator would sabotage their own reputation for the sake of saving the credibility of UEFA. The fact that a lengthy appeal determination will be made public is absolutely integral to a fair and transparent process. We will get this in time and it makes a corrupt judgement significantly harder to inflict upon City. UEFA had the luxury of never having to be accountable to the public for their actions. In full knowledge of this, they were at liberty to pass a much more questionable judgement.

 

[radcliffe1309]

Soriano's interview after the UEFA verdict implied that the decision was largely, if not totally, predicated on what was published in Der Spiegel. The club has repeatedly cited "out of context emails" as being the basis for the decision. Following the settlement, UEFA had three years of scrutinising every aspect of our finances. What is very unusual is that the infraction is supposed to have happened over a four-year period that pre and post-dates the settlement. I cannot see how they have managed to obtain any further evidence against us. The cynic in me suggests that the IC has tried to make the evidence fit a crime that does not exist. The settlement was agreed because of matters unresolved. I think that they have looked into the unresolved matters and fabricated a violation. City's bullish language about Leterme's handling of the investigation makes no secret of the club's disdain for the integrity of the IC. When you read that Leterme deliberately mishandled PSG's case to reach the statute of limitations, coupled with Rick Parry coincidentally jumping ship to the EFL before CAS could pass judgement, you realise that something may not be right.

City's statement spoke of a wish to seek independent arbitration. It could well be that we withdrew from the process, leaving the AC no choice but to hit us hard. There are serious issues surrounding the impartiality of the CFCB and we perhaps chose not to dignify it.

It also appears that there is a lot of internal disagreement between the independent actors at UEFA (Ceferin) and those with vested interests. I believe that we do have friends at UEFA but these people are under immense pressure from a very powerful cartel of clubs.

No CAS arbitrator would sabotage their own reputation for the sake of saving the credibility of UEFA. The fact that a lengthy appeal determination will be made public is absolutely integral to a fair and transparent process. We will get this in time and it makes a corrupt judgement significantly harder to inflict upon City. UEFA had the luxury of never having to be accountable to the public for their actions. In full knowledge of this, they were at liberty to pass a much more questionable judgement.

Excellent post

 

[Nascent Blues]

I've read that 3 times and I am still trying to work out the quilt pun that is hidden in there.

'Let's stick to the subject of the thread' could be a post-coital joke about spunk on the sheets? Tenuous, but possible.

 

[JCB001]

Its the abbreviations that get me ,too lazy to go through finding them for example IC AC DS and others

 

[Chris in London]

I've read that 3 times and I am still trying to work out the quilt pun that is hidden in there.

case.

as in pillowcase.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Its the abbreviations that get me ,too lazy to go through finding them for example IC AC DS and others

Investigatory Chamber.
Adjudicatory Chamber.
Der Spiegel.

 

[LucahArchie10]

I'm convinced we have won.

So much positivity around the place, I don't get any such vibe that we are staring down the barrel.

Either that, or we have very good poker players inside City.

Tolm if this has gone really well do you see City walking away head high & moving on or would City go after payback with the hackers, journos but most of all UEFA?

Again if we do win the case will some businesses be shitting themselves?

 

[LucahArchie10]

CAS will go through the whole matter de novo (afresh) based on both sides' submissions and the evidence presented. They will consider the application of the rules including limitations, the relevant rules and, if it finds UEFA were entitled to review matters from 2012-2016 (City say UEFA were not for a number of reasons), it will consider the substantive matters ie whether City did, in fact, breach the rules. I agree we will probably not get a full view of the judgment until some weeks after the summary of the decision.

1 question Please

If clear of all wrong doing can we then sue the shit out of anyone who calls us cheats & money talks blah blah.

Can we stop all shit spreading in the press after the music has been sung?

 

[City_Sean]

Tolm if this has gone really well do you see City walking away head high & moving on or would City go after payback with the hackers, journos but most of all UEFA?

Again if we do win the case will some businesses be shitting themselves?

City will not be going after anybody after this. They'll just simply move on.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Soriano's interview after the UEFA verdict implied that the decision was largely, if not totally, predicated on what was published in Der Spiegel. The club has repeatedly cited "out of context emails" as being the basis for the decision. Following the settlement, UEFA had three years of scrutinising every aspect of our finances. What is very unusual is that the infraction is supposed to have happened over a four-year period that pre and post-dates the settlement. I cannot see how they have managed to obtain any further evidence against us. The cynic in me suggests that the IC has tried to make the evidence fit a crime that does not exist. The settlement was agreed because of matters unresolved. I think that they have looked into the unresolved matters and fabricated a violation. City's bullish language about Leterme's handling of the investigation makes no secret of the club's disdain for the integrity of the IC. When you read that Leterme deliberately mishandled PSG's case to reach the statute of limitations, coupled with Rick Parry coincidentally jumping ship to the EFL before CAS could pass judgement, you realise that something may not be right.

City's statement spoke of a wish to seek independent arbitration. It could well be that we withdrew from the process, leaving the AC no choice but to hit us hard. There are serious issues surrounding the impartiality of the CFCB and we perhaps chose not to dignify it.

It also appears that there is a lot of internal disagreement between the independent actors at UEFA (Ceferin) and those with vested interests. I believe that we do have friends at UEFA but these people are under immense pressure from a very powerful cartel of clubs.

No CAS arbitrator would sabotage their own reputation for the sake of saving the credibility of UEFA. The fact that a lengthy appeal determination will be made public is absolutely integral to a fair and transparent process. We will get this in time and it makes a corrupt judgement significantly harder to inflict upon City. UEFA had the luxury of never having to be accountable to the public for their actions. In full knowledge of this, they were at liberty to pass a much more questionable judgement.

Really well crafted post that