UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[SilvaisSkyBlue]

We have seen these type of rules challenged and defeated in European courts of law before in the Bosman ruling, below is a short extract of national and UEFA rules being completely overturned in a Court when UEFA thought they could do as they wish.

‘The Bosman ruling also prohibited domestic football leagues in EU member states, and also UEFA, from imposing quotas on foreign players to the extent that they discriminated against nationals of EU states. At that time, many leagues placed quotas restricting the number of non-nationals allowed on member teams. Also, UEFA had a rule that prohibited teams in its competitions, namely the Champions League, Cup Winners' Cup and UEFA Cup, from naming more than three "foreign" players in their squads for any game. After the ruling, quotas could still be imposed, but could only be used to restrict the number of non-EU players on each team’.

Many ‘legally binding’ agreements are challenged in real Courts all the time, whether they are minor like ‘pre-nups’ or major cases such as massive companies creating ‘Cartels’ and stitching up competitors from challenging their dominant positions in whichever field they are operating in.

The thing that usually prevents such challenges is the money such challenges cost.

I am sure our owners are aware of the variances of our challenge to UEFA, I have no idea how far they are willing to pursue that challenge but they have definitely drawn the line in the sand and the Chairman looked very determined in his end of season interview.

Remember their are several cases against us at the moment, this initial challenge is important for all of them.

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

I’m more irked by the potential reputational damage. If CAS doesn’t find in our favour, not necessarily with this current appeal but rather the one that might (ha ha) follow a guilty verdict from the Adjudicatory Chamber, then it’s going to be open season in the media and from fans of all other clubs. The hysteria will be off the scale. Also, if the threat of legal action via the Courts is off the table, then there would appear to be little to deter UEFA from handing out a punishment that goes well beyond a one year ban. I’ve said before, this is the only chance these spiteful little bastards have. Wounding us temporarily is no good to them. They want and need us dead in the water. All we can do is put our faith in the club and its lawyers to succeed. I want to beat these fuckers with every fibre of my being

In total agreement with you about the potential reputational damage etc.

Just to be clear on one thing though is that the Castles story is not breaking any new ground. The goal posts have not moved with the new ECA/UEFA MoU in February.

The earlier MoUs have also been binding and, looking back at the 2015 version, the wording is IDENTICAL to the 2019 update for the sections covering CAS as the last source of recourse and exclusion of another court.

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

Do you lot think that City's lawyers aren't aware of that clause.
It's not Bodge it,Dodge it and scarper we've employed to fight this case.
Give the club some credit

I'm with you and of course they are aware of the clauses which, as I said above, have been around for ages. THis isn't new.

 

[oakiecokie]

I wonder if CAS will take into consideration that we historically signed up to the rules yet our 100 page document will clearly show that uefa disregard their own rules and procedures so they misled us into signing their paperwork?

I bet a pound to a penny that is what our Legal Team will be edging towards,as part of their (City) findings and within our 100 page documents.

 

[Sir peace frog]

what about our "army of lawyers" what about "we will ruin UEFA" what about "taking a pinch" all blah blah blah ,we need to fight fire with fire, hack the fuck out of everyone else's emails, dig up dirt, its the only thing these bent ****s know.

 

[citizen_maine]

I wonder if CAS will take into consideration that we historically signed up to the rules yet our 100 page document will clearly show that uefa disregard their own rules and procedures so they misled us into signing their paperwork?

I'd say CAS are more likely to be concerned with whether or not UEFA have implemented their own rules and procedures correctly

 

[OB1]

Take them on where?

Perhaps our lawyers can see a way to go to the Swiss Courts, if necessary.

If UEFA try to impose a ban on us that is unreasonable by bending their rules to suit or by ignoring facts, we may have cause for legal action in the jurisdiction that governs the MOU, which I've not read beyond scanning what's on previous pages.

I don't know Swiss Law and I'm not expert on English Law but I've had plenty of interaction with legal folk in my working life and even had to study the basics of contract law as part of my training way back. I am pretty sure that in UK contracts can be deemed unenforceable or parts can. Also, parties to a contract often end up having legal disputes over those contracts. The thing often is that you have to go to court to find out.

We have at least one experienced lawyer who uses this forum who could comment but I have seen nothing yet to convince me City cannot make a legal challenge in court but I'd like to hear an expert opinion because I may be wrong.

 

[nmc]

Do you lot think that City's lawyers aren't aware of that clause.
It's not Bodge it,Dodge it and scarper we've employed to fight this case.
Give the club some credit

I did hear we’d hired some no win no fee outfit in Fallowfield... I’m sure they’ll run rings around UEFA.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Interesting read...

https://www.goal.com/en/news/footba...rturn-ffp-in-court/1jtln6fw19enj1pwwn7sm11m7t

 

[Jazzman]

We don't need to take ffp to court, we would probably sponsor somebody else to do it, like the bosman lawyer.

Now there is a good point