UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Ardwick Green Blue]

We don’t need to circumnavigate FFP anymore. The issue we are fighting relates back to 2014 !!!

We will if we receive a CL ban. That's a big chunk of revenue missing.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

We don't need to take ffp to court, we would probably sponsor somebody else to do it, like the bosman lawyer.

Wasn’t the difficulty with the Dupont farce that he couldn’t argue that he was representing an affected party, so the Belgian and European Courts have spent 4 years kicking the case back to one another, without anyone being prepared to accept responsibility for it. A case that takes years to be heard would not suit City if we were banned in the interim.
Placing our faith in CAS seems our only option, and honestly I wouldn’t know what to expect there. What I do believe is that after all the very deliberate media hysteria, I’m not convinced we could get a fair trial anywhere outside of a State Court. Still, there are probably political forces at play that may assist us

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Am I being thick,uefa have a rule in place that prevents teams from challenging ffp in court,what absolute bollocks no organisation is above judicial law of any kind,.

No.
The agreement prevents challenging FFP punishments in court.
It is highly unlikely to be impossible to challenge the whole system.

It's like salary caps. Generally, they would be against the law, but if all concerned agree to abide by them, then the law will only notice if asked about it.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

Am I being thick,uefa have a rule in place that prevents teams from challenging ffp in court,what absolute bollocks no organisation is above judicial law of any kind,.

It’s not really a rule though, it’s an agreement. They didn’t just make it up, it’s been signed off by the ECA clubs of which we are one.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Two words: Peter Walton.

Here was a referee who tried to systematically screw us over. M.C.F.C. wasted no time whatsoever in compiling evidence against him and low and behold he was ushered off to the USA like a gooden.

This assault from the cartel (UEFA) is personal now as far as Sheik Mansour is concerned. What I'm referring to when I say these protectionist clubs are fucked is just that.

The sheik has the financial clout to take these clubs on single handedly. He doesn't have to rely on finances generated from M.C.F.C.

As far as players leaving our club because of lack of CL football you're right. Some will, some won't.

One thing is for sure we will have something other club managers would give their right arm for: "a siege mentality".
Couple that with a champions mentality and there isn't a football club in Europe that can offer that.

The point I'm making is this: Provoke us and you're fucked, leave us be and you're slightly less fucked.

Take them on where?

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

...and if we want to press charges we could leave the ECA.

I’d be surprised if you can do that retrospectively

 

[Tracking back]

Take them on where?

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

I don't know is the honest answer to that. But here's something to consider. If Sheik Mansour feels he's being shafted do you think he'll just pack up and say "oh well, it was good while it lasted "

Take a look at his personal and commercial wealth and portfolios of his successful businesses across the globe.

You don't get to achieve that level of business acumen by being a pushover.

 

[Grassland Blue]

Seems to me that unless our appeal forbids it then UEFA will issue their judgement ( next week if rumours are to be believed) and then this current appeal ( against the referral process) will be considered together with City's further appeal against the details and validity of any punishment handed down.
City are probably aware of this and IMO the current appeal represents a warning shot across UEFA's bows that our final appeal will be substantial and significant and will be two pronged against both the process and the judgement.

I see this being the case too.
Very well put.

 

[laserblue]

Here's a scenario.

You're charged with a crime you didn't commit but you're confident you have sufficient evidence to prove you're innocent and get the case dismissed. At your trial your lawyer attempts to present said evidence in your defence but the judge refuses to consider it. In the meanwhile the judge has already leaked to the press that you're going to be found guilty and even told them what punishment you'll be getting. Then the judge finds you guilty, remands you for sentencing and closes the case.

Ladies and gentlemen, UEFA in a nutshell.

 

[Chappie]

Do you lot think that City's lawyers aren't aware of that clause.
It's not Bodge it,Dodge it and scarper we've employed to fight this case.
Give the club some credit