UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Centurions]

If City can defend the Etihad deal, then the charge relates to City scrambling to inflate sponsorship deals for relatively minor deals in the aftermath of UEFA changing the way they were accounting for pre-existing player contracts.

I might be wrong but weren't the Aabar & Etisalat deals (presuming these are the ones we're talking about) already in place and the books submitted before UEFA moved the goalposts? I thought that was the crux of the matter and why City were so pissed with them.

 

[nmc]

oh yeah forgot those two crucial bits

Well most of the media don’t worry about those bits.

 

[M18CTID]

1904?

1904 was when it happened but 1905 was when we were punished. And fuck me, were we punished - with the harshest penalty in the history of English football all because some grassing **** at Aston Fucking Villa claimed we tried to pay them off to lose a game against us in order for us to try and secure the league and FA Cup double, and the subsequent investigation also turned up stories of City over-paying players (big deal - I'm sure that was happening elsewhere too). As far as I know, and I'm sure @Gary James can clarify, we were never actually proven to be guilty of bribing the Villa player, but the authorities decided to take Villa's word for it what with them being an establishment club with a lot of clout and City being the new kids on the block so to speak.

Fast forward 10 years and there was another case of match-fixing - this time involving none other than Manchester United and Liverpool where Liverpool deliberately threw a game (which helped United stave off relegation), but as the FA claimed this was fixed for betting purposes only the players involved in said betting scandal were punished (a total of 7) and the clubs and managers got off scot free, whereas in the 1905 case against City we had something like 17 players banned along with our chairman and manager being banned sine die.

 

[wolfie1988]

Who is we?

The club. And the fans should too

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

If City can defend the Etihad deal, then the charge relates to City scrambling to inflate sponsorship deals for relatively minor deals in the aftermath of UEFA changing the way they were accounting for pre-existing player contracts. The argument relates to whether these are related parties which is arguable according to accountants. The emails suggest that City were working actively to break the rules whereas we can show that what we were doing was trying to re-arrange in-house sponsorships which are commonplace in football such as Sports Direct, King Power etc. Any sanction UEFA impose has to be justified as most sanctions end up at the CAS and the punishments have to be proportional. They can not just do what they want. Whatever the likes of Martyn Ziegler and a few obsessive journalists who have an axe to grind with City think, City have gone from huge losses to surpluses. We're not a rogue club who are continuing to evade FFP circumventing the FFP rules with all kinds of tricks. This is a historical argument when City were under investigation hence 'evasion'. Since then the FFP record is exemplary.

I hope you’re right

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Whether we have done right or wrong or its all grey, the media have got what they wanted, they are running the show now and our guilt or innocence wont matter. The press and media can now push this until public opinion forces something to happen.

It's annoying that all clubs have these skeletons

 

[Marvin]

I might be wrong but weren't the Aabar & Etisalat deals (presuming these are the ones we're talking about) already in place and the books submitted before UEFA moved the goalposts? I thought that was the crux of the matter and why City were so pissed with them.

The Leaks purport to show that City were adjusting the Aabar and Tourism Authority deals to evade the worst effect of the sanctions. Simon Pearce is claimed to have said 'we can do what we like' re these deals. However these amounts are small. I think it was about £2m we're talking about. The Etihad deal is the major deal and they have already made a statement to the effect that they are fully liable for their sponsorship deal.

 

[u2fme2]

Fight the fuckers through the courts and end this load of bollocks once and for all .

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Whether we have done right or wrong or its all grey, the media have got what they wanted, they are running the show now and our guilt or innocence wont matter. The press and media can now push this until public opinion forces something to happen.

It's annoying that all clubs have these skeletons

Not all clubs are top of the league and still in 3 competitions, jealously is not a nice trait.

 

[blueparrot]

Whether we have done right or wrong or its all grey, the media have got what they wanted, they are running the show now and our guilt or innocence wont matter. The press and media can now push this until public opinion forces something to happen.

It's annoying that all clubs have these skeletons

They were running the show now it's been taken out of their hands. They may print stories but they aren't controlling it now the investigation is between UEFA and City.