UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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domalino said:
City have been quite clear that they beleive they can win on the facts, not just procedure. "irrefutable evidence" etc.

If they can do that, they absolutely have to for the sake of the club's reputation. Winning on a procedural error or technicality will put us in Europe next year, but we'll still be the pariah club in the press and in the views of the ECA and that just leads to more pressure for these kind of investigations, so it does have a material impact.
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We need to win on the basis of the evidence, rather than just on the basis of UEFA's maladministration.
 
domalino said:
City have been quite clear that they beleive they can win on the facts, not just procedure. "irrefutable evidence" etc.

If they can do that, they absolutely have to for the sake of the club's reputation. Winning on a procedural error or technicality will put us in Europe next year, but we'll still be the pariah club in the press and in the views of the ECA and that just leads to more pressure for these kind of investigations, so it does have a material impact.
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we have to win at CAS there is no margin for error, if we dont i can see a one year ban and then the prem jumping on board, striping medals and reduction to a lower lge is not going to happen but a points deduction is but the only way a punishment in points is going to affect us is being over -40 pts (thats regarding relegation), and this is where the mockery of it all is because we wont qualify for CL again so in efect we have the two year ban 'get the drift' UEFA and the Prem will be in dialog so if CAS turn the ban to one year we will end up serving two years anyway
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
I cant deny that all this has upset me quite a bit last few days.
I lost my dad last year and still struggling to come to terms with it. He took me to Maine road and we had some good times.
I think we will get cleared but with VAR and the constant attacks on our club are making me contemplate not renewing and giving up on the game completely.
Maybe that was the authorities plan all along, I'm not sure anymore.
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It's given me (and a lot of other Blues, I'm sure) sleepless nights recently, too ... it must be the biggest attack on our club ever.

But this is exactly the time we all need to group together, show solidarity and support the club to the hilt.

(Paradoxically, the only acceptable time to give up on your club is when they're doing fantastically well).
 
Blue Theatre said:
It's given me (and a lot of other Blues, I'm sure) sleepless nights recently, too ... it must be the biggest attack on our club ever.

But this is exactly the time we all need to group together, show solidarity and support the club to the hilt.

(Paradoxically, the only acceptable time to give up on your club is when they're doing fantastically well).
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This is the biggest attack I can remember on any club.
 
HarrytheBlue said:
I don't feel sad about this. I feel total anger and rage at our treatment by UEFA and the media, but at the same time I'm buzzing at the idea of seeing UEFA in court, as I've wanted us to test the legality of FFP since day one - albeit that aspect won't be tested at CAS. Actually, I feel energised as an individual and part of a group that's been collectively galvanised to a level beyond anything I can remember in all my life (60 in July). UEFA have picked on the wrong club.
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Tbh, even though it initially looks bad for City, I must say I'm pleased by this because I wanted to see UEFA and FFP challenged first time round (even though 2014 circumstances were different).

I'm not sure it's even from a City fan's perspective but purely as a fan of the game who abhors the concept of certain clubs having bigger caps than others on spending in a supposedly fair competition.

That's not to say we'll necessarily see a challenge of FFP (for a number of reasons) but it's long overdue we fought our corner.
 
City in the Community doing fantastic work in Manchester for decades. Never mentioned

Huge urban regeneration and job creation in a deprived area of Manchester. Never mentioned.

Fans stayed with the club during decades of non-achievement. Not mentioned any more.

Broke the boring monopoly in English football of the Sky 4. Never mentioned.

Delivered the most dramatic title win ever. Not important any more.

Brought the likes of David Silva and Sergio Aguero into English football. Not properly appreciated.

198 points in 2 seasons. Didn’t feel that widely appreciated outside our club

Won all 4 domestic trophies last season. Underwhelming response from outside our club.

Regularly fucked over by refs and var. Never gets a mention.

Everything good we do is ignored or played down. When we were shit we were loved, when we achieve we are reviled.

Everyone knows uefa are corrupt as fuck, so why when their kangaroo court finds against us, does everyone (apart from Martin Samuel) hate us to fuck?

We will get fucked over by the officials and by var against Real, we all fucking know it, but nobody outside our club will question it, or even acknowledge it.

The football world is fucking insane.

Goodnight
 
Ask yourself why would City turn down an offer of a nominal fine from UEFA unless we were very confident of the outcome.

Remember we have already been to CAS and may well have some insight into the outcome.

We should be worried but hopeful.

It is possible that UEFA knew that their case was lost and hence tried to negotiate a reduced settlement but as City wouldn't take it they went for the nuclear option...at least that way they say well we did our best? There were delays you recall to the hearing / announcement. Almost as if UEFA were left with no alternative.

Probably complete rubbish! ?
 
Fame Monster said:
Tbh, even though it initially looks bad for City, I must say I'm pleased by this because I wanted to see UEFA and FFP challenged first time round (even though 2014 circumstances were different).

I'm not sure it's even from a City fan's perspective but purely as a fan of the game who abhors the concept of certain clubs having bigger caps than others on spending in a supposedly fair competition.

That's not to say we'll necessarily see a challenge of FFP (for a number of reasons) but it's long overdue we fought our corner.
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im surprised its taken this long compared to the Bosman,maybe its finacial or like i said in another post clubs may have been afraid to take them on incase of becoming UEFA's next victim, at the end of the day all UEFA do is run an over hyped cup competition i'd love city to withdraw from it and make a mockery of UEFA,would it bother you? it wouldnt me, walk off the pitch against real after their little tune and refund the fans this would be the best statement ever IMO
 
Marvin said:
Ask yourself why would City turn down an offer of a nominal fine from UEFA unless we were very confident of the outcome.

Remember we have already been to CAS and may well have some insight into the outcome.

We should be worried but hopeful.

It is possible that UEFA knew that their case was lost and hence tried to negotiate a reduced settlement but as City wouldn't take it they went for the nuclear option...at least that way they say well we did our best? There were delays you recall to the hearing / announcement. Almost as if UEFA were left with no alternative.

Probably complete rubbish! ?
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How do we know they offered us a fine but no ban Marvin?
 
I hope we really do have a rabbit in the hat for this fight. I was chatting to the fella I know that is well connected in a media sense and he said that the club are up for the fight but isn’t sure from what he has seen/been told from other journo’s that they have enough solid evidence to overturn this. They need something that has not been made public and need UEFA to have nothing else that hasn’t! It’s all Ifs and buts so no clear outcome. It would be a huge blow for us if this is upheld. Need thick skins at the moment and need to show the world what we are about in the upcoming games as it the fans that are the constant in this club. owners, players and managers come and go but the generations of fans have been with this club for years.
 
Blatter and Platini both currently banned from anything football related when in reality both should be in prison..

FIFA, UEFA, FFP, VAR, G14, every one of these organisations, rules and (not so) Gentlemens Clubs are tainted by corruption and manipulation..

Billions of pounds swirling around in one big trough which has the chosen fews snouts buried upto their eyeballs in it..

Share it round and improve the beautiful game whilst its popularity is at its highest?

Fuck Off..!

No chance, we'll keep it all to ourselves and anyone trying to gatecrash will be heavily sanctioned and put in their place..!!

If City do not come out of this with anything but vindication then football is well and truly finished..!

I've recently seen and read a trickle of positive comments about our situation as the penny may just be dropping for the few who have dared to remove their blinkers..!

Football without competition is worthless..!

Will it step back from the abiss?

We'll all know soon enough..!
 
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