UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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City Man said:
According to today's Guardian the club have now said they have provided "comprehensive proof" of their innocence of the allegations. There also seems to be some pushback from the club now with the tone changing significantly. The club have said:

According to the Guardian, the club have upped the ante a bit with their response to the NYT article -

"Responding to a report in the New York Times on Monday that the IC is set to recommend City being banned from the Champions League, the club issued a strongly worded statement saying they have provided proof that the allegations are false.

This would be presumed to include further internal financial evidence and an explanation of the emails. The statement protested that the IC process itself has been the subject of leaks. “Manchester City FC is fully cooperating in good faith with the CFCB IC’s ongoing investigation,” the statement said.

“In doing so the club is reliant on both the CFCB IC’s independence and commitment to due process; and on Uefa’s commitment of the 7th of March that it … will make no further comment on the matter while the investigation is ongoing.

“The New York Times report citing ‘people familiar with the case’ is therefore extremely concerning. The implications are that either Manchester City’s good faith in the CFCB IC is misplaced or the CFCB IC process is being misrepresented by individuals intent on damaging the club’s reputation and its commercial interests. Or both.

“Manchester City’s published accounts are full and complete and a matter of legal and regulatory record. The accusation of financial irregularities are entirely false, and comprehensive proof of this fact has been provided to the CFCB IC.”

A statement from Uefa said: “We do not comment on ongoing investigations regarding financial fair play matters.”

The tone of this statement is completely different from the reserved tone of previous comments (by the way, I like the "or both"). The club have clearly been angered by the way this investigation is being handled. You can see how this could get very dirty if allowed to do so. But far more interesting is the statement that CFCB IC have been given "comprehensive proof" - well, proof is proof so I'll be intrigued to see how this bit pans out. Also, the Guardian's comment about "an explanation of the emails" - well, at the start the club said that the leaked emails were out of context so the Guardian's supposition would fit with the earlier statement, and there may be other emails not leaked that neutralise the "incriminating" ones.

Anyway, I'm going to watch Villa and the Baggies which should be a bit more exciting than this stuff.
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It’s a presumption by the Guardian, that we provided information relating to the emails.
They’ve broken the clubs statement down into sections, and added their spin to it.
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mikemcfc said:
How fair was it Pre-Sheik when we wern't rich and the united's and real madrid's of Europe were doing the same thing and no one cared?
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A classic case of cartel clubs wanting to pull the ladder up after them.

Also, which is best for football: owners who pump investment into a club and its locality - and who create wealth - or owners who stack up debt and suck money out?

Hard one, eh?
 
This shit broke a few weeks back before we played Spurs or Utd, did it derail City like it was meant to?

No suprise this now breaks again leading up to the cup final, shocking & embarrassing from the c.nts out there who just can't stand losing.

Best way to answer these fuckers is win the fucking treble.

Come on City....
 
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Fame Monster said:
I know but my point is that both PSG and City were accused of lying about an aspect of FFP. PSG were accused of lying about the value of their sponsorship, and City are accused of lying/not disclosing that Etihad may be a related party. In PSG's case, they devalued their QA sponsorship. In City's case, if Etihad are deemed to be a related party, surely the sanction City should face (on the basis of the PSG precedent) is no more than retroactive devaluation if the sponsorship is deemed to be above fair market value?
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Nope.

PSG were not accused of lying.

PSG has signed sponsorship contracts without, so far, any "irregularity" or "lies". It is FFP mission to put the "fair value" according to the market.
It is UEFA that said "your 200 M QTA contract is worth 100 M for our FFP calculations".
PSG then operates within the financial boundaries allowed by their incomes (which take into account those 100 M).
When UEFA chose to change the value, PSG responsability is to show they respect the boundaries of the break even rule. They did by selling all their bench players (Guedes, Pastore, Berchiche, Lucas, Lo Celso, Krychowiak, etc.).

Where do you see a lie by PSG side ?

And there is no PSG precedent since PSG has not violated FFP rules according to their own statements that has been enforced by CAS.

For the previous offence of PSG, City also faced the same sanctions years ago. So far, both PSG and City have been convicted only once.
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
If we do win the title or domestic treble , you can guarantee the FFP and transfer ban subjects will be regurgitated within a few days and Dipper F.C. will be will be held on a pedestal as the true Champions horseshit
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It's happened again, it's happened again. Scouse bastards it's happened again.
 
Clearly all the authorities in Football, including FA & Premier League - do not want a team winning every domestic trophy. Hence the timing.

As for Europe - our devastatingly brilliant team is scaring them to death. Hence the continued vendetta which actually relates to 2014.


Well they won’t win this battle - or the war
 
If UEFA try to ban us there will be a legal shit storm coming their way and they know it , the legality of FFP itself is open to debate in european law , City will go above and beyond CAS , me thinks ADUG have a few more quid than UEFA if they want to go legal.
 
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