UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Superace]

Could this not drag out for years, after CAS the European courts?

To be honest as much as I hate the bastards, they have to have the evidence to have gone this far. If true this means the club have been bluffing and blustering all this time hoping it would deter them, but knowing if it failed we were fucked. We will soon find out I guess because the shit has now definitely hit the fan.

UEFA have done this many times and lost the CAS appeal, they don't have a great history of getting it right.

 

[SebastianBlue]

I really don't understand some comments on here saying boycott the Madrid game or withdraw from the CL altogether. Why do UEFA's work for them, get behind the club by turning up if you've got a ticket and making it a white-hot atmosphere.

These comments are also representative of an incomplete understanding of the financial implications of such action, especially in the context of FFP, which is partly why UEFA have taken this action. They want to create a feedback loop of destruction for the club.

And the club know this, hence our challenge with CAS that is attempting to expose the corruption in UEFA, not just the investigative process. I wouldn’t be surprised if the club now challenge FFP itself in the courts as an unlawful restriction on trade and business operations, as it is clear now that UEFA will continue to use FFP to curtail City’s development regardless of whether this recent ban is upheld.

They have to kill the cancer, rather than just carrying on treating the symptoms, otherwise the cancer will eventually kill the club.

 

[SaddleworthBlueRhino]

Facing a points deduction in the premier league now too according t sky sports news

Who Cares. All the clowns in the Circus arena together! All equally corrupt !

 

[blueinsa]

City were aware of the verdict of UEFAs investigation on Jan 23rd.
If you think City, knowing they had no chance of having this over turned in the CAS, wouldn’t leak a thing and allow this to slap us/the fans in the face immediately - you’re delusional and a bit too pessimistic (city fan or not)

the gesturing and threats from UEFA in this case stand for little when a legitimate & legal appeal is lodged

the heavy fine will be down processed to a more reasonable, standard value upon appeal too.

watch this space.

We have done nothing wrong according to Khaldoon and we will take no more "pinches".

Its either we are banned for 2 years and a £30M fine or we are fully exonerated and we sue for damages.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

It’s a shame we have breached the rules and just to show how much uefa take rule breaches seriously I am looking forward to the banning of all English clubs for the same period.

you know the same as happened when Liverpool murdered Italian fans and all English clubs got punished the same.

 

[Bald fraud]

So the rags are basically financially fucked if they miss out on champs league this season and don’t look like getting in there anytime soon. Suddenly we’re bannned for two years. Hmmmmm

 

[citymad]

Not this time, we either fight it all the way or the owners sell up.

Thanks for making the situation even worse. Think it’s time for me to walk away from football.

 

[city saint]

most of our fan base will love going back to the underdogs team.FUCK THEM IF WERE BANNED WETRE BANNED.one thing they don't realise is no way are they stopping us.theres been a change regarding wages for the prem so no way will we struggle to recruit

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

I think we have to be careful not to legitimise the so-called rules by suggesting that there is something wrong with breaking them or yhat we "deserve" a ban. The rules would be illegal in any other form of business and are anti-competitive in sporting terms. That's the real scandal in this whole sordid affair.

Totally agree but unless and until we can have FFP ruled illegal we have to either comply or not be caught not complying.

 

[SaddleworthBlueRhino]

These comments are also representative of an incomplete understanding of the financial implications of such action, especially in the context of FFP, which is partly why UEFA have taken this action. They want to create a feedback loop of destruction for the club.

And the club know this, hence our challenge with CAS that is attempting to expose the corruption in UEFA, not just the investigative process. I wouldn’t be surprised if the club now challenge FFP itself in the courts as an unlawful restriction on trade and business operations, as it is clear now that UEFA will continue to use FFP to curtail City’s development regardless of whether this recent ban is upheld.

They have to kill the cancer, rather than just carrying on treating the symptoms, otherwise the cancer will eventually kill the club.

Agreed

 

[East Level 2]

I really don't understand some comments on here saying boycott the Madrid game or withdraw from the CL altogether. Why do UEFA's work for them, get behind the club by turning up if you've got a ticket and making it a white-hot atmosphere.

Some who want a boycott never fucking turn up to home games anyway. A bit like gobby rags.

 

[Vic]

I fancy CAS to give a preliminary ruling to suspend the punishment pending full determination.

"When deciding whether to award preliminary relief, the President of the Division or the Panel, as the case may be, shall consider whether the relief is necessary to protect the applicant from irreparable harm, the likelihood of success on the merits of the claim, and whether the interests of the Applicant outweigh those of the Respondent(s)."

So on the basis that a ban would cause irreparable harm to us (but no harm to the interests of UEFA), that's two counts in favour of suspending the ban until a full hearing. Unless they think there is no likelihood of defeating the corrupt UEFA, run by representatives of our rivals, we will get the ban deferred.

 

[lancs blue]

To be honest as much as I hate the bastards, they have to have the evidence to have gone this far.

Don't forget the UEFA hierarchy are between a rock and a hard place. They're under pressure to ban us from the usual suspects but I think Ceferin was also trying to get us to accept a lesser sanction to "make it all go away". In the end they've decided to bow to the pressure, it doesn't necessarily mean the evidence is watertight.

 

[ancoats]

Media going bananas hoping for us to get relegated and stripped of titles. I feel like I’m done with football

this is a witch hunt

holy shit they want to scratch out everything from 2011 ?? we have really upset the cartel this time hahaha you can not make this up
only football clubs can be so much of a mess and in debt to the tune like something of £500 million and still call the shots and dare you question debt in uefa FFP

we must take everybody down with us and if we are going blow the fucking whistle on the rest and call it right

 

[RobinHood]

Don't like all this talk about 2 years giving us leg room to appeal and reduce it to 1. I presume we are appealing the verdict, not the sentence. Therefore, if we win the appeal, we take NO punishment.

 

[Groke]

Only a matter of time before he's filled in by some blue.

My mate was asking if anyone knows where he lives?

 

[City Man]

In the worst case scenario the manager and some star players will leave and we will be impacted for 2-3 years as we recover.

2 or 3 years, even 4 or 5, is absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of this clubs future though.

We won’t be killed off. We’ll come again and over the next 10, 20, 30 years we will be the most successful English club.

One day we’ll look back at this era when they repeatedly tried to stop us and we’ll laugh because ultimately they will have failed.

Spot on mate. 2 seasons pass in a flash if that's what it turns out to be. I'd rather that and look forward to the aftermath than be like our Salford chums and be in the doldrums for 7 years with no end in sight. Or Spurs and Arsenal - unremitting gloom. Chelsea anyone?

 

[moomba]

We're spoiling for a fight, and I love it.

 

[Trojan1962]

And now the positives....

Pep was highly likely going in 12 months anyway.

If he decides to go the end of this season Then we can start the rebuild now instead of in 12 months time.

We will not lose Foden,and Garcia because of lack of game time.

And lets be honest we have never looked remotely like winning this corrupt competition with Pep as manager.He simply can not be pragmatic when he needs to against Europes best teams.

Aguero will see out his contract with us regardless because of his advanced age.And because he genuinely loves us.

Raz if he wants to go the £100,000 000 will seriously come in handy the next 2 seasons

Leroy has been colluding for a move with Bayern for a while.Another £100 000 000 to team rebuilding.

We go back to buying good up and coming players again like we did VK,and david Silva.

KDB would be a loss.

Laporte a bigger loss in my opinion

 

[lancs blue]

Thanks for making the situation even worse. Think it’s time for me to walk away from football.

There's no halfway house is what I'm getting at.