UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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So what do we think in terms of time frame here? CAS will likes take at least 12 months. So the ban can’t be implemented until the hearing is complete. I suspect that the earliest it can start is the 2022 season by which point we will be in an actual court challenging FFP and UEFA themselves.

I get the feeling this could drag on a good couple years and somewhere along that line UEFA will buckle as we move into the real detail of this.

I don’t see us serving a ban, or paying any fine.

It’s going to be a long process but one I believe we will ultimately win.

UEFA are going to be a very different organisation when all is said and done.
Timescale from CAS Dont know how long City have to take the case to CAS though


The ordinary procedure lasts between 6 and 12 months.

For the appeals procedure, an award must be pronounced within three months after the transfer of the file to the Panel.

In urgent cases and upon request, the CAS may, within a very short time, order interim measures or suspend the execution of a decision appealed against.
 
I've always thought Stone was a very good journalist. But that doesn't mean I like him or agree with his reports. SOme of our enemies are capable you know.

Look we're going to the CAS now. UEFA hawks won for now. Making our enemies out to be morons when we're the ones facing a 2 year ban is a little silly. The implication is that our board have been outdone by simpletons and that isn't the case at all.

There is a difference between recognising the strength of your opponent and siding with them.

I particularly liked his online piece this morning, a photo of a single fan in the etihad, Good journalism.
 
Of course it has, but we can drag others down into the dirt with us.

For me, it's about time this club became one again, on and off the pitch.

Militant, mobilized and ready to lean in and push back.

We are Manchester fucking City - existing before Barca, United, Madrid.

Winning in Europe before Liverpool.

Winning makes you soft, you crave respectability and approval.

We don't need fucking approval, and the sooner Soriano realises this the better.

Our greatest asset will always be the people who bleed blue.

We need to stop fucking moaning. We know we are hated. Embrace it.

Too many have their entire lives dictated to by likes and comparisons.

Remember this. We are the richest club on the planet. The owner never went out and put Messi and Ronaldo in the same team, which he could have done ten times over.

We are Manchester fucking City. Our enemies should be very worried what comes next.

Let's have a bit of old-fashioned hostility in the air.

I like the rhetoric but have always felt we’re too nice off the field & so called working openly with UEFA has got us nowhere which we really shouldn’t have been naive about as of course they have a long term agenda.

Maybe should have followed suit as PSG who seem far more ballsy in these type of financial situations.

Would love City to take the Yank approach of basically drawing this out with the lawyers between City & UEFA until they run out of legal finances but doubt we will be that ruthless.

I wouldn’t even take a compromise of a season ban, as who’s to say UEFA won’t revisit this type of attack on the club again in the future.
 
I think there will be huge pressure on the Premier League to invent some reason to deduct us points for next season.

No European football next season and the ability to spend whatever we like without FFP puts us as huge favourites for the league next season. All thanks to UEFA.
 
It’s time for the club to come out swinging and bloody a few noses in the process. We could see this coming for a long time so now is the time for us all to stand shoulder to shoulder and take these snivelling fuckers on. Any media miss information should be jumped on and warnings/bans given. It’s nice to be nice but sometimes being too nice makes you look weak. Time for the fight back to begin CTID!
I had already resigned myself to fucking it all off mainly because of var , but I detest bullies & it feels like my club are being bullied .If City fight back , first by banning some of these vermin press from our ground then I certainly will return to fight with them . Nicey nicey hasn’t worked , it’s war now & time to stick together & FIGHT BACK !
 
Just got up. Had a long lay in. Read the papers..jeez it's like a seige mentality out there against us. How about taking this to the supreme Court.
 
No I wasn''t thinking of AJ - CNN programming in the UK on Sky channel 506 airs from their Abu Dhabi based production centre.
are you a German by any chance?

Their Europe/Middle East/Africa service airs from London. A specific Middle East only service airs from Abu Dhabi.

Regional and online versions
There are six variants of CNN International:

As for your German comment, if this is meant to be a jibe it's gone way over my head. If your CNN reception airs exclusively from Abu Dhabi maybe you should get your TV or Sky box looked at.
 
The press, sky, bt, uefa, unfortunately all looking for the same thing - glory for the favoured teams, whilst keeping upstarts like us in what they see as our rightful place, the gutter. If you think the PL won’t come after us you are optimistic verging on the naïve
What PL rule have we broken? You forget that PL is subject to English Common Law. Rule 1: The causes of Action may be dead, but they rule us from the grave. Without a rule to point to, PL would be laughed out of court.
 
Now UEFA has expectedly belatedly thrown the proverbial Kitchen Sink at us we can start the real legal process.

Think of UEFA like the Civil Courts.And CAS and Switzerland like legal Courts.

In Civil Courts people can simply walk in off the Street, make shit up about you ,lie,etc,sittings held behind closed Doors,no transparency.No need for any established facts,or supporting evidence etc.Just a Judge deciding you are probably guilty because someone says you are.What i am describing is UK Civil Courts,that is how they work,just like how UEFA operate behind closed Doors.Except even worse UEFA is a Judge,Jury,Executioner that is made up of rivals who hate us and their sycophants.We had no choice but to go through this bias due process,Kangaroo Court charade before starting our real fight back.

Now we move from the Kangaroo Civil Courts (UEFA) to the real legal Courts.

This is where those who made shit up about us will have to provide facts, and evidence to support their case.No longer will some illegally obtained emails be enough to prove guilt.They will have to prove beyond doubt we illegally operated.Our lawyers should be able to easily discredit those allegedly damning illegally obtained emails.Just because someone tells someone they going to kill someone in an email.It dont mean they will carry out the act.Also who can prove the authenticity of these emails beyond reasonable doubt,they could have been fabricated by the conspirators ?

I hope city choose an open CAS hearing.

I have a Gut feeling we will have a field day with UEFA.

We might have just lost a Battle.We could very well win the war.

As the saying goes,the darkest Hour is just before dawn.
Except the UEFA civil court you would find your accuser sat on the bench passing judgement
 
The press, sky, bt, uefa, unfortunately all looking for the same thing - glory for the favoured teams, whilst keeping upstarts like us in what they see as our rightful place, the gutter. If you think the PL won’t come after us you are optimistic verging on the naïve

I might be wrong, but isn't evidence gained thru illegal means (i.e. Hacking) unusable in English courts?
 
I've always thought Stone was a very good journalist. But that doesn't mean I like him or agree with his reports. SOme of our enemies are capable you know.

Look we're going to the CAS now. UEFA hawks won for now. Making our enemies out to be morons when we're the ones facing a 2 year ban is a little silly. The implication is that our board have been outdone by simpletons and that isn't the case at all.

There is a difference between recognising the strength of your opponent and siding with them.
Is it raining, Marvin?
 
I think there will be huge pressure on the Premier League to invent some reason to deduct us points for next season.

No European football next season and the ability to spend whatever we like without FFP puts us as huge favourites for the league next season. All thanks to UEFA.

The forum that I am banned from for not liking liverpool is full of liverpool fans saying it wont be fair next season as we will have a free run at the premiership and can spend what we want !!!
 
Spurs fans gloating is cracking me up, don't they realise they are also hamstrung by FFP and it's protectionism or the cartel.

Are dans really that thick and self absorbed woth their dislike of us that they don't see uefa are fucking all of us over.

Us, spurs, wolves, leicester, everton etc anyclub on an even keel that could and should be able to invest and push in cannot while the rags are heavily in debt but spend what the fuck they like, while the scouser also in debt spend a fair amount too.
 
Just out and saw a kid with a Liverpool shirt, and then saw Western Union on the sleeve, fuck me, not sure what it’s like now but not so long back many a genuine decent business wouldn’t have anything to do with these fuckers such was their reputation!
Just to be clear are we talking about WU or Liverpool?
 
A Poster said last night that City have a signed an agreement with UEFA that the CAS avenue of appeal is the only other option available to us now.That we can not go the full legal route.

I do not know if this has been answered yet ?

Can someone please confirm if this is true,or not, i think it is quite important ?.

Also UEFA have lost cases at CAS involving Galatasaray,and AC Milan.We have to hope.
 
I think there will be huge pressure on the Premier League to invent some reason to deduct us points for next season.

No European football next season and the ability to spend whatever we like without FFP puts us as huge favourites for the league next season. All thanks to UEFA.
We will be in the CL next year, have no fear.
 
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