UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[marco]

They might have more involved that didn't go to CAS? Or didn't have a big enough role to get named?

A journalist on 5Live just said his paper tried to phone up the big law firms to work on an in-depth story and all of them said they were representing City and couldn't help them.

I think Khaldoon's threat of spending 30m on lawyers rather than paying a penny in fines is coming true.

if thats Khaldoon's intention which he has stated then its not going to be any other way,he's not going to go public and do the reverse

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Not sure of timescales but I'm assuming if City drag it on after CAS (if they can) could be years. Anyone with better knowledge, please correct me.

In my humble opinion, everything suspended pending appeal. If it takes 18 months/2 years so be it.

 

[mancity1]

Maybe now the club will start to bite back at all the ****s lying or twisting the truth about us, I really dont get why we never put our foot down about the blatant lies they would tell which are now seen as truth by your average person. There is for sure a degree of ignorance or racism at play too, as our owner is apparently the owner of every middle east company and also at fault for all human rights issues too due to being a family member of a ruler. Even the fucking BBC reporting Etihad is owned by our owner which is just blatantly false, why dont we ever correct them?

I believe the fact we never challenged the media has in part allowed UEFA to act they way they have, as we are already seen as the boogeyman after years of negative press, if we had defended ourselves from the start it wouldnt be so easy for them to make up charges against us after moving the goalposts, the majority are happy to see us punished as they think it means the rules are working, without realising the rules just keep the top few in place and nobody else will ever compete again. Very short sighted but making an example of us keeps them happy without seeing they themselves have no chance to reach the top.

Unfortunately that chance is gone and our reputation has been damaged, possibly for a long time. I know not everyone cares but investors and sponsors will, which helps keep the club competitive. Also players will bear in mind club reputation when joining, if they think it will affect them negatively from a PR point of view they will be more cautious of joining, especially in this social media age.

I hope after we "took the pinch" last time that we come out all guns blazing this time, I dont want to see us taking anymore shit from UEFA or the Media ****s.

The same media that called UEFA a corrupt lot from top down not so long ago and did it change a thing in that organisation , blud oath it didn't.

Media are as fickle and pathetic as UEFA so lets as Tolmie said embrace the hatred , they want to keep us in the news we don't give a toss whether its good or bad it means nothing in the end.

Too many don't like a new kid on the block and never will even if replaced by another.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

I wanna see Sheikh Mansour at the Madrid game fist pumping his chest!!!!

Wearing a T-shirt with

SHEIKH, BATTLE & TROLL

 

[Centurions]

Ah, it’s all good fun isn’t it.

I'm genuinely lovin' it.

 

[Marvin]

If the idea of an alternate to the CL is being poo-poo'd - how about a true international competition?

Following on from this idea, so it's not seen as a 'bridesmaid' competition we could also try to rope in the likes of Boca Juniors, River Plate, Corinthians, Independiente, Rangers and Celtic etc.

I'd rather beat them in their own competition.

A summer tournament, pre-season friendly tournament involving said clubs, particularly as we have clubs across football now sounds feasible though. With a lucrative sponsorship.

If the rest of football wants a war they can have one.

 

[SidJames]

I've pretty much given up on 5Live, MOTD, Football Focus. Never listened to TalkSport, had Sky or BT. I very rarely even read the papers these days, because most articles about City are negative.

Let's face it, City were never going to be allowed to crash the party, despite our clear and obvious plan to make football more inclusive and to promote local involvement in football and sport in general. No other club has anything even remotely close to the Etihad campus, but we're the bad guys?

It's clear and obvious that football at the top level is a cartel, and we are not welcome unless we agree to play by their rules.

I am cancelling my Sky,BT subscriptions.

To be honest it was something i had been considering for a while.Had enough of Liverpool being on every other week.Might as well buy a fucking season ticket.

The scouse love is nauseating,vomit inducing.

They are not holding back.Going to hit them where it really hurts.

 

[john blue]

Can't see anything coming of this.

Wish i was as confidant.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

if thats Khaldoon's intention which he has stated then its not going to be any other way,he's not going to go public and do the reverse

Put it like this, we'll have the Kevins, Davids, Messis and Sergios of the legal profession making our case and cross examining UEFA witnesses.

 

[journolud]

The outcome of this will define us for a generation.
Everyone can have a say, but some people on here do have more knowledge a d experience than others.
With such volume coming through, would it be a good idea to have a separate thread with just a few of the people with a clue.
@Prestwich_Blue et al, and leave the guessers like me on this thread.

That’s a very good idea. I can see from other posts that @Prestwich_Blue has posted this morning but I haven’t got the will to go through hundreds of posts to read it/ them. No disrespect to anyone who has posted on here, all views are valid but I would like to see a distillation of the most informative

 

[Uptop]

How do you silence the media?

The only thing to be done is to stop using none-City media. Come the West Ham game there will still be City fans commenting online in the newspapers match reports. Use City blogs and City social media and don't make money for organisations who use Man City as a way of marketing their product.

I honestly dont know but assume there is some way to force the media to change articles so they are truthful with some sort of threat of action if they continue to report false information?

Ive already binned the usual media and not had Sky or BT for years for exactly that reason.

 

[pardoe]

Blue since '91 and lapsed Bluemooner. I've not read all of the thread, forgive me, but i wanted to specifically ask about the realistic knock-on of this decision onto the investment in the club from China and the United States, and the major sponsorship deals like Puma etc.

Around 22% of the club is not owned by Abu Dhabi. This investment was made, you'd imagine, based on accounts now suspected to have been inflated. The more recent investment, by Silver Lake, admittedly in the group as a whole rather than just City, felt inflated at the time, and will almost certainly be revenue and performance-related.

Could the kit deal with Puma, over £60m per season of potential income, be also linked to CL participation?

This adds up to comfortably over £1bn of revenue, some historical, some due over contracts. Could these parties effectively walk away, void these contracts, or in the very least enforce penalties or renegotiation?

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I’m not actually bothered about being banned from the champions league. Most city fans couldn’t care less about it anyway.

it’s more the clear agenda UEFA have against us

 

[domalino]

I've pretty much given up on 5Live, MOTD, Football Focus. Never listened to TalkSport, had Sky or BT. I very rarely even read the papers these days, because most articles about City are negative.

Let's face it, City were never going to be allowed to crash the party, despite our clear and obvious plan to make football more inclusive and to promote local involvement in football and sport in general. No other club has anything even remotely close to the Etihad campus, but we're the bad guys?

It's clear and obvious that football at the top level is a cartel, and we are not welcome unless we agree to play by their rules.

I've only been listening to 5Live since this came out and I would say they've been pretty good.

Simon Stone has been at pains to reiterate that City say they are innocent and didn't break the rules every minute or so, talking about how FFP is there to protect old established clubs, Chapman keeps steering the conversation towards if FFP should even exist, and they just had a football finance expert on who said that FFP didn't work as a way of ensuring a level playing field and all it does is stop new investment.

Stephen Warnock has been a bellend, being a Liverpool fan, but everyone else has been pretty measured compared to what I've seen journalists write on twitter.

I do wonder how much our legal and PR teams have been involved in reminding everyone of a few responsibilities this morning.

 

[chaddblue]

I’m not actually bothered about being banned from the champions league. Most city fans couldn’t care less about it anyway.

it’s more the clear agenda UEFA have against us

Not bothered about the CL, as we'll never be allowed to win it anyway

Bothered about the lost revenue and the potential problems in attracting / keeping the best players who want to play in the competition

 

[bavarian blue]

I'm genuinely lovin' it.

I've never felt so engaged with the club.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Those of us old enough to remember the rioting out side Maine Road is the type of mentality we need now fuck the world, chin up chests out and lets show everyone we are a club wear the fans,players,board and owner are one ,we are city no one likes us we don't fucking care let's behaving it you twats

A few 'Swales out' chants and a couple of PET pint glasses thrown towards the main entrance hardly constitutes a riot.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

The tough thing now will be the inevitable long delay before we finally get to the endpoint...whatever that might be. This ban will be hanging over us like the Sword of Damocles (not the BM mod, btw).

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Not according to CAS's own minutes they didn't. More media bollocks.

https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Award_CAS_6298_internet.pdf

Manchester City Football Club Limited, Manchester, United Kingdom
Represented by Mr Paul Harris QC, Barrister, Monckton Chambers, London, United Kingdom, Mr Rhodri Thomas and Ms Natalie Sheehan, Solicitors, Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer LLP, London, United Kingdom, Mr Jean-Cédric Michel and Mr Massimiliano Maestretti, Attorneys-at-Law, Kellerhals Carrard, Lugano, Switzerland

That's five, not eight.

D,ya reckon we'll get legal aid ?

 

[davek1808]

This is more than football now this is now a reckoning.