UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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Manchester City will NOT be forced into a fire sale of their top players if a two-year ban remains in place and could even benefit financially from their time out of Europe, according to football finance expert Kieran Maguire. [via @Jack_Gaughan]

Kieran Maguire: "There would be no need for a firesale. They will actually benefit from not being in Europe because FFP limits under UEFA are €30million losses over three years, compared to £105m under Premier League limits."

Does that make any sense?

6 and half a dozen really. We will probably still be worse off without CL money I think, would need to see the figures of how much we make from that.

Edit: we only made €45m from participating last season so actually a fair bit of leeway.
 
I’m glad it wasn’t boxing, the hammers mascot looked sticky as fuck whereas Moonchester looks like Charles hawtrey inside the costume
That wasn't the usual guy in the costume last night. There's no way the bloke I know who does it can run like that. Certainly not these days!



Fun fact, he appears in this pic too...





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I won't say which one though. ;-)
 
I play a little game now where I leave this thread for 20 minutes or so and then refresh it and guess how many extra pages there are.

I'm living the dream.
I know what you mean, I have even been coming home for me dinner to try and keep up!!! Bloody threads expanding quicker than the first stages of the big bang.Every time I think of a valid point I can make, I find some fker posted it six hours previous. Why, this site is now giving xhamster a run for its money on my pc history,( City, ruining porn addiction since 2008).Anyway, fck uefa,fck media, fck shitehouse fans who know fckall, I have found that anyone who talks against us for more than 30 seconds becomes a hypocrite. Whatever happens when all this is done, City will still be here, and I am pretty sure that most of us will still be here too, and thats what matters. Wankers who claim we didnt exist prior to 2008 dont realize that some of our best memories are from humbler times, appreciating shit players who try hard,laughing at ourselves, and all the other stuff you do to get through. This is what bonds you to your team, I really hope we fck all of them in court, but if it does go pear shaped, I know some of us on here have already got the depth of character to cope with it.Imagine the post match thread after a loss to barrow after demotion to the second division lol.
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I know what you mean, I have even been coming home for me dinner to try and keep up!!! Bloody threads expanding quicker than the first stages of the big bang.Every time I think of a valid point I can make, I find some fker posted it six hours previous. Why, this site is now giving xhamster a run for its money on my pc history,( City, ruining porn addiction since 2008).Anyway, fck uefa,fck media, fck shitehouse fans who know fckall, I have found that anyone who talks against us for more than 30 seconds becomes a hypocrite. Whatever happens when all this is done, City will still be here, and I am pretty sure that most of us will still be here too, and thats what matters. Wankers who claim we didnt exist prior to 2008 dont realize that some of our best memories are from humbler times, appreciating shit players who try hard,laughing at ourselves, and all the other stuff you do to get through. This is what bonds you to your team, I really hope we fck all of them in court, but if it does go pear shaped, I know some of us on here have already got the depth of character to cope with it.Imagine the post match thread after a loss to barrow after demotion to the second division lol.
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It certainly would be helpful if the vast majority of fans of other clubs spoke against us for 29 seconds or less. ;-)
 
Manchester City will NOT be forced into a fire sale of their top players if a two-year ban remains in place and could even benefit financially from their time out of Europe, according to football finance expert Kieran Maguire. [via @Jack_Gaughan]

Kieran Maguire: "There would be no need for a firesale. They will actually benefit from not being in Europe because FFP limits under UEFA are €30million losses over three years, compared to £105m under Premier League limits."

Does that make any sense?
I guess it means we can lose 75m more over the three years, but if we make 45m a year then over the two years by neing in the CL we could be only 15m better off if our owner put in the maximum ammount to cover the loss.
 
The one and only thing I feel fatigued about is the worry of the money I have to pay to watch City these days.

The media, social media, the hate, the jealousy, the vitriol... I fucking embrace all that shit! I used to thrive off it with a drive and passion when we won nothing and United had that banner, and I thrive off all the bile now as I imagine everyone squirming every time we win.

Being a fan of this City is much easier than being a fan of 80s 90s and 00s City!

This news of the ban on Friday really reawakened that desperate feeling I used to have when we were worried about relegation. But other than this week, the last 12 years have been easy compared to some past times.
 
It’s FACT that their sponsorship deal was overvalued by 93m based on an independent analysis versus the figure Leterme decided to go with. Whilst that’s not proof of paying Leterme off, the only logical conclusion is that Leterme was acting with PSG’s, or rather his mate Nasser Al-Khelaifa’s best interests in mind. And a likely reward for doing that would be sort form of bribe, be it money or otherwise.
Correct, they are on the take

PSG, Juventus are crooked to fuck
 
I know what you mean, I have even been coming home for me dinner to try and keep up!!! Bloody threads expanding quicker than the first stages of the big bang.Every time I think of a valid point I can make, I find some fker posted it six hours previous. Why, this site is now giving xhamster a run for its money on my pc history,( City, ruining porn addiction since 2008).Anyway, fck uefa,fck media, fck shitehouse fans who know fckall, I have found that anyone who talks against us for more than 30 seconds becomes a hypocrite. Whatever happens when all this is done, City will still be here, and I am pretty sure that most of us will still be here too, and thats what matters. Wankers who claim we didnt exist prior to 2008 dont realize that some of our best memories are from humbler times, appreciating shit players who try hard,laughing at ourselves, and all the other stuff you do to get through. This is what bonds you to your team, I really hope we fck all of them in court, but if it does go pear shaped, I know some of us on here have already got the depth of character to cope with it.Imagine the post match thread after a loss to barrow after demotion to the second division lol.
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As towns go, Barrow’s about as grim as it gets. That would be an...err...interesting away trip.
 
Dont even think how we will be OK even if we get 1 year ban or 2 years ban. Both cases PL will have all the ammunition they need to fuck us. No CL and fucking with our PL points and lots of good players would really looking to move away even if we dont need to do a firesale...

they give a 20 points deduction and we fight for what? to finish 4th which wont worth CL?

Its not like some clubs are punished not playing in Europa League for one season, boohoo it dosnt matter, it doesnt have any prestige or heavy financials involved...
Milann happily accepted not going trough the Thursday games all season in case thy can ut together a good Serie A run to get into top4, well they cannot even without EL as they are shit but certainly had more chance than if they play EL.

I really hope we somehow avoid it but if we were really offered another pinch in December, and we laughed it off while we get maybe a 1year ban or even 2 years ban, we have made a huge mistake. Because that is not a pinch but more like dropping a bomb on you...

But if we win the case and CAS cancels this fucking ban we need to teach a lesson to the brainless journos who are spouting shit and do something about the damaged reputation we suffered during this period.
We have a big legal team, lets burn some of the the enemy shall we? Otherwise all they will reporting is how we bribed CAS etc.
 
The one and only thing I feel fatigued about is the worry of the money I have to pay to watch City these days.

The media, social media, the hate, the jealousy, the vitriol... I fucking embrace all that shit! I used to thrive off it with a drive and passion when we won nothing and United had that banner, and I thrive off all the bile now as I imagine everyone squirming every time we win.

Being a fan of this City is much easier than being a fan of 80s 90s and 00s City!

This news of the ban on Friday really reawakened that desperate feeling I used to have when we were worried about relegation. But other than this week, the last 12 years have been easy compared to some past times.
Every situation has its own challenges.
 
This has been a well planned and orchestrated attack by the established order of the premier league and the European cartel. They are aided in this attack by their many friends in the media. Since the takeover the mouthpieces have been sniping constantly. Sports washing, human rights abuses, cheating, you name it and it has been said, over and over until people take it as the truth. Once the masses believe it then it's time to go for the kill and hit us with charges hoping some will stick. Damage our good name, reputation, the brand and do harm that sets us back years.

In my opinion the fight we face now is as serious as when we got relegated to the third tier and we underestimate our opponents at our peril. You can bet if a ban sticks and/or a points deduction or demotion from the premier league, the scramble to tighten the rules even further to ensure we never get back to the top will begin in earnest.
and what about our on going case which would be the Swiss courts,you have bassed the above without taking that into account,,,if we lose to CAS and thats a big if then the Prem will sanction us,they are sat on the fence while UEFA do there dirty work,they havent the bottle to take us on without us losing to CAS, lge 2 or 1 or the Championship aint going to happen because financialy there is nothing to gain for the Premiership,a points deduction likely but to have any serious effect it would have to be -40pts to have any effect however what it would efectivly do is guarantee we dont make the CL at the end of season so in effect we still do have a 2 year ban
 
I am a bit worried tbh,what if we never get left alone or even worse the club has been lying,even if we are cleared the damage has been done to our reputation already,pep staying is great and if don't lose any sponsers we should be able to rebuild,when he leaves we'll see what the damage really is
look, for pep to come out with what he did he would have wanted 100% facts that we are innocent,he made his statement bassed on that, same applies to both club statements,there not going to come out with what they said unless there completely stupid,we have the cream of Lawyers advising us on every move and statement made
 
Dont even think how we will be OK even if we get 1 year ban or 2 years ban. Both cases PL will have all the ammunition they need to fuck us. No CL and fucking with our PL points and lots of good players would really looking to move away even if we dont need to do a firesale...

they give a 20 points deduction and we fight for what? to finish 4th which wont worth CL?

Its not like some clubs are punished not playing in Europa League for one season, boohoo it dosnt matter, it doesnt have any prestige or heavy financials involved...
Milann happily accepted not going trough the Thursday games all season in case thy can ut together a good Serie A run to get into top4, well they cannot even without EL as they are shit but certainly had more chance than if they play EL.

I really hope we somehow avoid it but if we were really offered another pinch in December, and we laughed it off while we get maybe a 1year ban or even 2 years ban, we have made a huge mistake. Because that is not a pinch but more like dropping a bomb on you...

But if we win the case and CAS cancels this fucking ban we need to teach a lesson to the brainless journos who are spouting shit and do something about the damaged reputation we suffered during this period.
We have a big legal team, lets burn some of the the enemy shall we? Otherwise all they will reporting is how we bribed CAS etc.

A benefit from being out of CL and a points deduction though is a throwaway season in the league to blood the youth we have, either from the academy or from the loan army.

Look at Chelsea this season, after a years passed from their transfer ban are the journos still going on about it, or are their praising them? Tbf it could just be the media love for Lampard but I dunno if would be complete doom and gloom.
 
and what about our on going case which would be the Swiss courts,you have bassed the above without taking that into account,,,if we lose to CAS and thats a big if then the Prem will sanction us,they are sat on the fence while UEFA do there dirty work,they havent the bottle to take us on without us losing to CAS, lge 2 or 1 or the Championship aint going to happen because financialy there is nothing to gain for the Premiership,a points deduction likely but to have any serious effect it would have to be -40pts to have any effect however what it would efectivly do is guarantee we dont make the CL at the end of season so in effect we still do have a 2 year ban

I know all this that if we fail we could possibly take it to the Swiss court and I also know the premier league are awaiting the decision before they make their move, if indeed they ever do.

It is all guesswork and noise now, of which I am contributing too as well. Nobody knows for certain if we will win we can only hope we do. If we ultimately lose the shitstorm we are in now will be nothing to what we face then. By the same token we can start to create our own if we win.
 
Dont even think how we will be OK even if we get 1 year ban or 2 years ban. Both cases PL will have all the ammunition they need to fuck us. No CL and fucking with our PL points and lots of good players would really looking to move away even if we dont need to do a firesale...

they give a 20 points deduction and we fight for what? to finish 4th which wont worth CL?

Its not like some clubs are punished not playing in Europa League for one season, boohoo it dosnt matter, it doesnt have any prestige or heavy financials involved...
Milann happily accepted not going trough the Thursday games all season in case thy can ut together a good Serie A run to get into top4, well they cannot even without EL as they are shit but certainly had more chance than if they play EL.

I really hope we somehow avoid it but if we were really offered another pinch in December, and we laughed it off while we get maybe a 1year ban or even 2 years ban, we have made a huge mistake. Because that is not a pinch but more like dropping a bomb on you...

But if we win the case and CAS cancels this fucking ban we need to teach a lesson to the brainless journos who are spouting shit and do something about the damaged reputation we suffered during this period.
We have a big legal team, lets burn some of the the enemy shall we? Otherwise all they will reporting is how we bribed CAS etc.
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A benefit from being out of CL and a points deduction though is a throwaway season in the league to blood the youth we have, either from the academy or from the loan army.

Look at Chelsea this season, after a years passed from their transfer ban are the journos still going on about it, or are their praising them? Tbf it could just be the media love for Lampard but I dunno if would be complete doom and gloom.
i think were screwed if we get a reduction to a one year ban and then whatever the prem chuck at us maybe at most a points deduction which will ensure its 2 years without CL football,its not the money or the ban its the brand has been damaged,we cant afford to lose this,we have to win at CAS because although i have no doubt we willl go to the Swiss Courts,that will take years
 
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